Cat to the table: Auston Matthews vs Patrik Laine

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Better player?

  1. Auston Matthews

    52.9%
  2. Patrik Laine

    30.8%
  3. Too close to call

    16.3%
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  1. AnishLoomba

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    didn't laine face lower competition as well? he was a rookie so throwing him in to the fire wouldn't be a good idea. if laine becomes an all around great player like matthews has the potential to become that laine would be better
     
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    matthews gets 2 minutes of ice time on the pp per game which ranks really low compared to the players that he is slightly below in terms of talent, where as nearly half of laine's points are on the pp (27 of 64).
     
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    Out of Laine's 41 goals 2.27% of them are on the power play when you factor in the 18 he scored playing 5v4 or 5v3.

    When it comes to Laine's 64 total points 2.37% of them are from the power play since he has 27 points with the man advantage.
     
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    Yes Laine is one of the main reason we currently have the second best power play in the league. Pretty awesome talent if you ask me.
     
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    Mate, I'm not trying to be rude or anything but you seem to have serious case of selective reading. Main boards are flooded with Matthews' gpg posts.
     
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    you're percentages seem weird unless i'm missing something
     
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    I edited my post because i realized you might understand. But laine actually faced tougher competition for most of the season as the jets didnt have much of a choice with all the injuries...

    Laine will likely never be considered as rounded as matthews and thats fine. He is a winger so his role is smaller in his own zone. He is usuallt the one responsible for getting the puck out of his own zone already so thats enough for me personally.
     
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    I calculated the number of Laine's total goals to the number of his power play goals, along with calculating his number of total points to his number of power play points.
     
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    great talent indeed. whats even better is the irony in that laine only has 23 goals at es when he's played many more games than matthews, who has more es goals (26) in fewer games. hmmmmmmm...........
     
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    oh ok makes much more sense now. thx
     
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    2.27% of 41 isent event 1 goal
    ..im dont understand?
     
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    Except that in the Aho/Marner thread my argument included more than just points. So no, there is no double standard.
     
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    tell me more about goal totals...think Laine is already above 40 this season or something........hmmmmmm............ :D
     
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    I divided Laine's 41 current goal total to the #18 which is Laine's power play goals and that's how I got that number.
     
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    yah the injuries to scheiffle (3 games), little (23 games), perrault (17 games), copp (18 games) really made laine face tougher competition/s
     
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    Things are going better for both franchises than they have in years, yet people are still entrenched in this battle.

    Go enjoy life, it won't always be like this, as I'm sure you all know.
     
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    cool. but did he do it as a rookie? hmmmmmmmmmm...........................
     
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    This vote is NOT going how the OP thought it would when he made this thread lol
     
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    Ah thats why it doesnt make sense.

    To get the percentage of how many of his goals are on the pp you divide his powerplay goals with his total goals

    18/41= 43% or whatever it is.

    Dividing his total goals by his powrplay goals you get how a ratio of how much more goals he has than 18 or in other words how much goals he has in percentage over 18...so 227.7777etc % or 2.27 times as many goals...
     
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    nope! was a few short last season!

    Just competing for the Rocket this sophomore season....no big deal or anything, he is probably more concerned about making a dent in the playoffs.
     
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    As i said not the entire season...they were missing little (2c) to start the season while laine played with scheifele...who do you think teams focused on?

    I posted pretty intesively on this in some threads trust me laine faced on average slightly tougher competition than matthews especially the first 30 games then it evened out over the later parts of the season but still laine with the tougher matchups
     
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    i trust you. you are a calm poster. you know your stuff.
     
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    Usually on poll questions like this we see fans of other teams vote against the Leafs players no matter what if they are apart of the question.
     
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    Besides the difference wasent huge or anything...

    What amuses me is how similar these players production is that we all fight over decimals to prove a point. Its a luxury i doubt we will have any time soon again so enjoy while it lasts.

    Thats said matthews gf% this season has been utterly disgusting something like close to 70%??. I think he also is at +23 or something like that in plus/minis. Just insane how effective he is 5v5
     
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    You are correct that Matthews is currently +23 and to put it in perspective in his rookie season he was only a +2. Now once he returns to the lineup his +/- will change when he scores more 5v5 goals and hope he's not on for any goals against. However right now it's a 21 point difference.
     

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