Player Discussion: Carter Verhaeghe

[These Are The Days]

Apart from ABB, Raddysh is just about the only guy we haven't tried yet. With how CV is playing I can't imagine how much worse an option he's gonna be

 

[Tampacuseforever]

Conacher is not an NHL player anymore. He's turning 30 next month, his significant NHL days are behind him. He might get a call up here or there but he should not be looked at to be a consistent contributor. Smith I can see still carving out a career, not sure why we didn't give him a longer look. He's not that old either, 25 and not turning 26 till towards the end of the season. There is NHL talent in Syracuse just not top end talent, maybe Barré-Boulet, it is more middle to bottom 6 types. Raddysh could possibly be a 2nd liner in the right situation. The cupboard isn't bare is just isn't flush with talent like in the past. This season hasn't been too good yet for prospects, no one has really taken off or shown huge strides yet.

As for Verheaghe he shouldn't be on the 2nd line, he isn't hurting that line but not helping it either. The other lines chemistry has just been too good to breakup. I wouldn't want to waive him either, not that I think he's going to break out, I just feel he is decent depth and would be good to keep around. He's not out there bleeding goals like Witkowski was. If we waive him and he gets claimed then the Crunch lose Smith or Martel who have been two of the top forwards when playing.

Strong hard disagree on all this take except maybe Conacher. I said he was nhl ready and able, I never said he is a long term answer. As far as anyone one else right now. Good luck !!!!!

 

[Tampacuseforever]

Apart from ABB, Raddysh is just about the only guy we haven't tried yet. With how CV is playing I can't imagine how much worse an option he's gonna be

ABB is the most skilled player we have in Syracuse. Problem is he’s not what is required in Tampa right now. More skilled soft power play specialists the Lightning have plenty.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

Yeah we currently have a gaping hole on 2RW. I don't think Volkov or Verhaeghe look ready to take the spot. I guess we could try Joseph up there, but that just makes the third line suck.

I don't know what we have as an option in 'Cuse. Maybe ABB, but he didn't look like a great option in the preseason. I think the trade market is our solution.

Absolutely the only way to fix 2 line RW if they don’t want Gourde there is a trade. The type of player they are looking for we don’t have.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Absolutely the only way to fix 2 line RW if they don’t want Gourde there is a trade. The type of player they are looking for we don’t have.

So let’s do it. It’s pretty much cup or bust hard as f after the sweep.

We have 3 1st round draft picks in the next two years. Let’s use em!

 

[Tampacuseforever]

So let’s do it. It’s pretty much cup or bust hard as f after the sweep.

We have 3 1st round draft picks in the next two years. Let’s use em!

I wouldn’t doubt they do. Josh Anderson please !!!!!

 

[Volodya Krutov]

What the hell this kid is doing up here ? Hard skater but that's it. He's not good enough in every possible way. Conacher's never been and never will he be a NHL caliber player. I wanted Cory so much to succeed, this is not gonna happen tho.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I wouldn’t doubt they do. Josh Anderson please !!!!!

OMG I would be so wet. I don’t think there would be a more perfect fit. Unfortunately he is an RFA. The price would be sky high and there is no room for us to re sign him.

We need a rental like Kreider, Toffoli, Frolik, Pageau.

Or even Hall if the price was right and we didn’t care about the injury risk.

 

[bov]

Anderson would be the perfect fit. Not that his value is low right now, but I wouldn't mind JBB taking a shot sooner rather than later before he goes on a hot streak and the price becomes too high. As others have pointed out, our only glaring weakness currently is 2RW with the other three lines finding some chemistry.

I'm not opposed to Kreider either.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Anderson would be the perfect fit. Not that his value is low right now, but I wouldn't mind JBB taking a shot sooner rather than later before he goes on a hot streak and the price becomes too high. As others have pointed out, our only glaring weakness currently is 2RW with the other three lines finding some chemistry.

I'm not opposed to Kreider either.

There would be no trade to be had between TBL and CLB. No way Tampa parts with the assets needed.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

There would be no trade to be had between TBL and CLB. No way Tampa parts with the assets needed.

The window is closing and it’s time for a real bold move. We don’t know what it would cost but he is exactly what is needed. My point with the whole conversation is we don’t have any prospects that can fill this void, and IMO the only nhl capable depth forwards we have are Conacher and Smith. It’s time to make a significant move if we can.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Wouldn't surprise me to see us make a push for Taylor Hall later in the season to complete our top-6 and go all-in for the playoffs.

Conacher, Smith, Verhaeghe, Volkov, ABB, Raddysh or Stephens are not the answer to our big hole on 2nd line RW.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

The window is closing and it’s time for a real bold move. We don’t know what it would cost but he is exactly what is needed. My point with the whole conversation is we don’t have any prospects that can fill this void, and IMO the only nhl capable depth forwards we have are Conacher and Smith. It’s time to make a significant move if we can.

I agree 100. That’s why I said in above post

Hall, Kreider, Tofolli, frolik, Pageau

all of these players are on losing teams and will be available

 

[These Are The Days]

Gonna bang the drum for Kreider or Hall... Hall because if he isn't the best 5 on 5 scorer in the NHL he is near the top. Kreider because he plays a heavy game and is an absolute monster in the crease. Both will be invaluable when the refs conveniently swallow the whistle. Gun to my head give me Kreider because he'll be better when the refs decide to say "Yeah f*** these guys and their prolific power play" and teams clutch and grab like it's 1996 on us and when we sneeze the wrong way we're given a penalty. I did the math on the CBJ series and the refs called something like 7 penalites all series with something like 3 being in the 1st game, another 2 being coincidental and another game where we didn't get a power play at all.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Gonna bang the drum for Kreider or Hall... Hall because if he isn't the best 5 on 5 scorer in the NHL he is near the top. Kreider because he plays a heavy game and is an absolute monster in the crease. Both will be invaluable when the refs conveniently swallow the whistle. Gun to my head give me Kreider because he'll be better when the refs decide to say "Yeah **** these guys and their prolific power play" and teams clutch and grab like it's 1996 on us and when we sneeze the wrong way we're given a penalty. I did the math on the CBJ series and the refs called something like 7 penalites all series with something like 3 being in the 1st game, another 2 being coincidental and another game where we didn't get a power play at all.

Pretty bang on post! Love it

 

[Sky04]

Anyone thinking Hall has clearly not been watching Hall. Will cost too much and his playstyle will make Cooper drive him to the 4th line. He's a bad fit.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

Anyone thinking Hall has clearly not been watching Hall. Will cost too much and his playstyle will make Cooper drive him to the 4th line. He's a bad fit.

I believe what they are looking for is a skill/size combination to help make our top 6 tougher to play against. We have Gourde who is more than capable of playing there if we just wanted skill. I agree Hall doesn’t fit with what is needed.

 

[Sky04]

I believe what they are looking for is a skill/size combination to help make our top 6 tougher to play against. We have Gourde who is more than capable of playing there if we just wanted skill. I agree Hall doesn’t fit with what is needed.

Just to add to that, Hall has half his points on the PP this year - you know which position he plays on the PP? Left wing in the circle - where Stamkos plays. I know which one I'd rather have.

 

[JAY7791]

Hall with Stamkos or Point would be magic, but I'm fine with Kreider too. Josh Anderson is perfect fit imo and if available id pay the price

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Gonna bang the drum for Kreider or Hall... Hall because if he isn't the best 5 on 5 scorer in the NHL he is near the top. Kreider because he plays a heavy game and is an absolute monster in the crease. Both will be invaluable when the refs conveniently swallow the whistle. Gun to my head give me Kreider because he'll be better when the refs decide to say "Yeah **** these guys and their prolific power play" and teams clutch and grab like it's 1996 on us and when we sneeze the wrong way we're given a penalty. I did the math on the CBJ series and the refs called something like 7 penalites all series with something like 3 being in the 1st game, another 2 being coincidental and another game where we didn't get a power play at all.

The monster-in-the-crease-with-37-points-in-77-playoff-games Chris Kreider?!

 

[CupsOverCash]

Hall with Stamkos or Point would be magic, but I'm fine with Kreider too. Josh Anderson is perfect fit imo and if available id pay the price

Thats who I keep thinking of but Im not sure the price we would have to pay. Where would we put him is another question I have too.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

CV hasn't been terrible, just kinda average. Plays a little nervous still. I think he can still be effective but I really want it to be with Paq and Fatty.

 

[RegularSznAllStars]

CV hasn't been terrible, just kinda average. Plays a little nervous still. I think he can still be effective but I really want it to be with Paq and Fatty.

Fatty

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Anyone thinking Hall has clearly not been watching Hall. Will cost too much and his playstyle will make Cooper drive him to the 4th line. He's a bad fit.

Along with the with the injury risk I agree 100

He also seems like he wouldn't "acclimatize" as well as a player like Kreider

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

CV hasn't been terrible, just kinda average. Plays a little nervous still. I think he can still be effective but I really want it to be with Paq and Fatty.

Im over it. He's been pretty bad, He's an offensive player who has contributed absolutely nothing.

Also why on earth would we break up the 4th line? do we want a useless Marron agian?