LeBrun: Carolina will "absolutely" trade Skinner
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As much as the leafs could use the hometown boy they aren't in a position to trade a D for a F. Even if that D is banned from playing game 7's going forward.
That D is practically a forward. Capable of putting up points but just not what the team needs now.
The way I see it, Babs still wants Ds playing on their strong side, making Dermott a capable 2nd pairing LD to replace Gards.
I’ve gone as far as proposing:
Nylander + Gardiner for Slavvin + Skinner
on the Leafs board.
Skinner has a NMC and is looking for an extension. Not sure he'd accept a deal to Arizona. I'd want Dvorak+ as a return. Would add more from the Canes side (Faulk?) to get Hjalmarsson as well.
Apparently one of Colorado's writers heard they offered the 16th pick plus for Skinner, but Carolina asked for 16th + Jost. I think it was in one of their podcasts so I don't have a direct link. I seen someone mention it on the Avs board.
It might have been mentioned already, but I didn't see it here.
It might have been mentioned already, but I didn't see it here.
Slavin is as untouchable as Matthews. You'd be better off targeting Hanifin at that valuation.
Gardiner is the type of player the Canes are currently trying to trade (Faulk and Hanifin). There is no fit for him in Carolina. They already have Slavin, Hanifin, Haydn Fleury, and Jake Bean at LHD.
That would jive with the reports out of Carolina that Waddell is over-valuing the Canes assets. Waddell just said that his phone is ringing off the hook, so you can't blame him.
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Ouch, that’s a lot for a just 1 guaranteed season of Skinner. If that was on the table for Skinner, CAR takes that all day but COL rightfully balks.
Jost is an interesting player. Wasn’t he drafted as a C?
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Yep, sell high if you can. Might not end up making many deals though.
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According to what Waddell just said, they aren't trying to trade Hanifin. Could be all lip service, but he said their goal is to sign him long term and the whole "Hanifin is being shopped" is because one team called Waddell about him then that team leaked it to the media and suddenly his phone was ringing off the hook.
Skinner on the other hand, he pretty much insinuated he'd be moved.
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AJ Haefele from BSN Denver said yesterday that Joe Sakic asked for Skinner was told Tyson Jost + 16OA pick.
So a 20yo center with top 6 upside + a mid round first pick.
If that's the asking price he's going to stay in Carolina.
So a 20yo center with top 6 upside + a mid round first pick.
If that's the asking price he's going to stay in Carolina.
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Asking price =/= final sales price.
Too strong. On the table might have been better. While Waddell said their goal was to sign Hanifin long-term, he didn’t exactly shut down the possibility of a trade.
I do think that it comes down to Faulk vs. Hanifin. One or both will be dealt. Both project as #3 next year but they are an awful 2nd pairing together. Faulk is much more likely to go of the two IMO.
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That's the kind of asking price that gets your number blocked, not the kind of asking price that gets the conversation started.
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True, but he hasn't exactly shut down the possibility of a trade of the #2OA either. I think "unavailable at any reasonable price" probably applies only 5 guys on the Canes, the #2OA and Necas.
Jeff Skinner fits in with the Colorado Avalanche or the Los Angeles Kings,He only fits in San Jose if the Sharks lose out on Tavares and Kovalchuck
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Nah, that's how fan's on HF look at it, that GM's get offended by high asking prices, but I bet it happens way more than people think and GMs know the game.
Sakic was asking for a 1st round pick, a NHL ready high potential defenseman, and a top prospect for Duchene and MANY fans of other teams all said the same thing, the asking price is ridiculous, he'll get his number blocked, blah, blah, blah. Teams still negotiated with him and he eventually got pretty much what he was asking for.
I don't think Skinner would ever get that return though (1st + Jost), so I agree with you on that. I think it's probably a deadline type deal or slightly better, which is a mid-late 1st and a decent, but not top, prospect or depth player, but have no issue with a GM's initial ask being higher.
Yeah he had some stretches where he was ok at center, but a lot of us are thinking he may be a winger in the future. Hes really good along the wall for a 19 year old who still needs strength. He flashed plenty of skill too, but his two way game will need work. At least he has the work ethic and a history of being a smart two-way player though.
I highly doubt they'd include him in a trade for Skinner even if they knew Skinner would extend ahead of time though.
I just wanted to point out that there was at least a rumor that the teams had talked regarding 16th O/A. I'm not surprised the second piece was a high ask this early.
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Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
Can you imagine...Skinner and Kane....Wings of Redemption.
Those guys both had some electric skill and some serious hype entering the league
I don’t see the appeal for SJ.
Your 2 highest paid forwards would be $7 million LWs Jeff Skinner and Evander Kane? Good luck. Better be nailing your Draft picks. And I say this as a Canes fan that would love the demand for Skinner to include the Sharks.
Critical13
Fear is the mind-killer.
Watch Skinner go to Montreal, and them try to convert him back to a center. (I bet I'm late with this joke)
Or they should target Panarin, who is much better than Skinner
Definitely. Skinner has a NMC so he gets to pick his next destination. Given the teams with reported interest, it appears that an extension is a realistic possibility.
Some teams will prefer getting a guy who waived his NMC for them and likely signs an extension. Some teams will prefer to gamble on the better player whose recently said he’s not willing to talk contracts right now. That’s probably why you see a team like Buffalo reportedly interested in Skinner. Panarin’s market might be heavier Cup contenders.
And while Panarin most likely stays, it seems almost certain that Skinner will move.
krt88nc
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It’s actually bad for both teams.
Carolina doesn’t spend money so they want no part of that contract.
Edmonton overspends to get rid of a contract for a one year rental. Oilers can’t waste assets like tge10th puck for a guy unlikely to stay beyond the year.
