Value of: Carolina Goalies

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  1. Crazydounut

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    With the addition of Curtis Mcelhinny to the Hurricanes. You can make the case (If Darling plays like he did in the pre-season) that they have 2 Fringe starting caliber goaltenders (Curtis Mack, Mrasek) and 1 solid starter (Darling). I don't see Carolina keeping 3 goaltenders the entire season (hell even after October). One of these 3 is getting shipped off.

    Firstly: If your Carolina who do you move? Darling and his contract, take the risk of Mrasek and Mack? OR Move Mack/Mrasek and trust Darling to play like he did in Pre-Season

    Secondly: What can Carolina realistically get from these guys? I'd see a 4th or 5th rounder at best for Mrasek or Mack. A 2nd or 3rd at best for Darling

    Thirdly: Who would trade for one of these guys? Philly, Pittsburgh, Florida, Calgary, Vancouver, Islanders, Edmonton
     
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    Carolina's playing pretty good thus far. I think they go with Mrazek and McGoalie.
     
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    Can't see CAR getting out of Darling's contract that easily.
     
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    I think they carry 3 goalies for a while even after Darling is back. McElhinney only makes $850K and the Canes have a roster spot.
     
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    it's sad to see such good teams with such terrible goalies, cough cough phily*
     
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    Barring injury it’s highly unlikely a team deals for one of the Carolina goalies. Mrazek has enough of a track record that teams already have an impression of him. Mack is what he is. Veteran backup.

    As for Darling he has term and given his struggles last season, no chance he gets moved unless the Canes retain.

    Of the teams you listed, doubtful any of them make that move.

    Edmonton, they have to know what they have in Talbot. He’s UFA at year end. Either they commit term to him or walk away.

    Calgary, they are grooming young guys so barring injury they really don’t have a need.

    Florida, they have Reiner who can carry a load until Lu returns.

    I don’t see the Isles, Canucks, interested. Their guys have their own questions.
     
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    A return of Darling to Chicago :laugh:

    That got one former Hurricane goalie that is ‘meh’ing it up right now. Why not 2?
     
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    I don't see why the Canes would deal one of them until they have a track record with Darling (Post injury) and a better track record with McElhinny and Mrazek. Too many unknowns right now.
     
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    McElhinney was an elite backup last season but he’s never been a starter in his decade long career.
     
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    I see McElhinney, Mrazek and a Taco Bell toilet. Who's the 3rd goalie?
     
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    They won’t “deal” any of them I suspect. They’d have to waive Mac or Mrazek and I don’t think anyone is touching Darling before he puts up a big full season. Maybe next summer if that happened, but if he did it the Canes would just keep him.

    Like others are saying, they’ll just keep the three of them until a pecking order is clearly established.
     
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    Darling is a solid starter? Since when?
     
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    None of those guys have any value yet. McBackup would get claimed by another team on waivers (the Leafs would certainly take him back for the Marlies at a minimum) and might be worth a late pick but Darling has a whole lot of **** to atone for and Mrazek is the definition of mediocre. A few good games doesn't make trash goalies worth assets.
     
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    I don't think a single team would, frankly.

    Mrazek was on waivers last year, McElhinney this year (and every other one). Darling sucks.

    There's just nothing redeemable there.
     
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    He said you could make a case "If he plays like he did in the pre-season."

    That's still a big IF and likely won't happen for a sustained period, but that was the premise of the discussion. It's hypothetical, as are most discussions on the trade board.
     
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    Some Neanderthals played Ward 3 games in 4 nights to start the season.
     
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    if McElhinney could get a 4th Toronto would have traded him.
     
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    Gotta think Darling has negative value with that contract. Probably will have to add a 2nd to move him.
     
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    Easy: waive darling and no one will claim his cap hit, hope he kills it in Charlotte, and boom
     
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    Darling spent the summer losing 30 lbs and on a diet, exercise, flexibility regimen with the Canes trainer in Raleigh. He's looked much better in pre-season. I'll be shocked if the Canes don't give him some games after his injury to see if all that work paid off or not. That's why I think they'll just keep 3 guys for a while.

    The good news is that right now, there's no rush to hurry him back.
     
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    TOR couldn't trade him, everybody knew one of Pickard/McElhinney would be waived.
     
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    non sense, I am sure that a GM with a later waiver priority than Carolina would have offered a pick to jump the que if they saw him worth it.
     
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    Do you get an alert when someone insults a mediocre goalie?
     

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