StateOfHockey101
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Value of: Carey Price
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The only way Bergevin trades Price is if he gets a king's ransom is return. Not saying Price is worth that, just that it's the only way you would get Price out of Montreal. Bergevin can't afford to trade him for anything less than that, unless he wants to get fired. And even then...I'm not sure Molson would allow it.
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Every GM's in the league will tell you he is still the best Goalie in the league.
He still needs to show he isn't injured or too tired anymore.
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I fully agree. If he's healthy he's far and away the best.
But you dont give a lot, pay that contract and just hope he will return to pre-injury form. Teams would need to see it before that or they wouldn't pay too high or a price tag.
he doesn't have negative value. he'd return some valuable assets because a gm will be stupid enough to trade for him
NotNotALeafsFan
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Fantastic goalie. Cost is too high to acquire considering the contract.
Is something going on with Dubnyk? Would prefer him and his contract rather than price’s
Is something going on with Dubnyk? Would prefer him and his contract rather than price’s
Honestly why would the Wild even be interested in Price, it's not not like he is a lot younger or as reliable than Dubnyk
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Price's contract is absolutely untradeable. Good player, but by far the most undesirable contract there is in the league. Nobody will take it.
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I think Price got a great a value , but if Price is traded the team that trades for him need to dump a cap space to make it a good trade.
With Montreal not in the derby for Tavares , ROR rumors are gone and Pacioretty gone
Will be funny to see if Weber and Price are traded.
With Montreal not in the derby for Tavares , ROR rumors are gone and Pacioretty gone
Will be funny to see if Weber and Price are traded.
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When Price is healthy, he is the best goalie in the league. The full value of his contract (unretained) will be next to impossible for any team to swallow though.
There are few GMs that stupid and one of them already has Price.
If he can return to form he might not have negative value with that contract.
A young team needing a legit starter may want to deal with the devil down the road to have elite goal tending for the next 4-5 seasons. They just need to find room for his salary under the cap.
Bad contract back plus 2nd/b prospect?
A young team needing a legit starter may want to deal with the devil down the road to have elite goal tending for the next 4-5 seasons. They just need to find room for his salary under the cap.
Bad contract back plus 2nd/b prospect?
Murray didnt look all that hot this year. On ability alone, I'd take Price over him easily. Unfortunately.l, Age and contract status isnt on Prices side.
I do agree that there are several other goalies I'd consider first though.
Come on, that’s just horseshit. He’s had a bad season, but so did the whole team. This guy is a generational (goalie) talent. He carried the Habs for years with a mediocre lineup to the playoff and even further. He won everything but a stanley cup yet and he’s only 31. Personally, I have yet to see a goalie that declined at 31. Look at Brodeur, Roy, Lundqvist, Hasek, Luongo and to some extent goalies like Anderson and Thomas who kept an elite level of play until their late 30’s.
Price still has at least another solid 6 years of prime before he starts declining. A 6 years contract would’ve been the best but we all know how it works. It was either 8 years or nada.
10.5M/year is currently in #’s for a franchise player and starting next year with all the superstars needing a new contract, we will see A LOT more 10M+ a year contract and Price’s will suddenly not seem so bad after all. The % of total cap hit he will take will go down every year so if he can keep up his play for another 6 years and still have competitive #’s for his last two, I think his last 4 years of his contract will be a steal (less than 10% of total cap).
As for his value, I don’t know. I guess a package isn’t going to be enough or have enough value to make it worth for the Habs. My bet, it would need to be a 1v1 trade for a similar talent at another position. Think Crosby, Malkin, Karlsson, Doughty type of players (Superstars +/- 5 years his age)
he was much better than price this season and was a vital part in the pens winning 2 cups.
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i'd swap him with Andersen easily (and add) if not for contracts, but Leafs can't afford that much for a goalie. i'd be shocked if any team could
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Habs would have to absorb some of this contract to make a trade. Even then, Price will have to demonstrate his game first.
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Murray? let me guess, because he has 2 cups?
He didn't look good at all this year which leads me to think you're talking out of your ass as usual
Untradeable. Have gotta hope he can stay healthy and return to form but no ones making room for that contract
Yeah, he had an off year for sure. I guess I should disregard the first two years where he was pretty damned good in the regular season and did win two Cups?
OK. You run along now.
OK. You run along now.
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For Price to be worth his deal, he needs to play way above Vezina level for eight years. Anything lower, and he's not.
Also, you're ignoring significant factors here. Not many teams can afford to take on that anchor of a deal in the first place, and only a few teams would even entertain doing so based on need. You're already limited to a handful of teams. Then there's his trade protection, which might rule out teams (all speculation, though), and let's face it; if you're on an internal budget, forget acquiring Price altogether. Teams with a strict cap structure for the upcoming years will be skeptical, for that f***ing boat anchor basically means that you're now up one franchise player in salary.
By taking everything you ignored into account, you can rule out practically every team in the league. Then you can look at Price's performance and decide whether it is worth it to take the risk of him flaming out early. All his injuries and his last year, during which he was the single most overpaid player in the league. (then again, goalies fluctuate in this regard, but having a season that bad is of no help in any case) And you're suggesting that a franchise player is what it would take? If somebody offered you future considerations for taking his contract in its entirety, you pull the trigger and don't look back.
In short: Price is a great goaltender with absolutely no trade value due to his bloated contract and concerns of an early decline.
Oh, so we should take into account Murray's past seasons, but not Price...is that it ?
Next time, maybe you should explain the rules first, would help a lot.
OK. Back to the kids table now.
It doesn't really matter if you overpay a forward or a defenseman, because you can always demote them to a lower line or pairing and they can usually still be useful. If Price is not performing like a #1 he becomes totally worthless to his team. Last year Price wasn't playing like a #1 goalie. Even if he bounces back and wins a Vezina his contract is still gonna be terrible in a few years.
People thought Bryzgalov's deal was bad. At least his contract wasn't buyout proof. 70 million out of the 84 owed to Price are signing bonuses immune to buyout, which makes it absolutely the worst contract in the league. Compliance buyout might save the franchise from cap hell, but I wonder how the owners will feel about paying tens of millions for a buyout.
People thought Bryzgalov's deal was bad. At least his contract wasn't buyout proof. 70 million out of the 84 owed to Price are signing bonuses immune to buyout, which makes it absolutely the worst contract in the league. Compliance buyout might save the franchise from cap hell, but I wonder how the owners will feel about paying tens of millions for a buyout.
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Too much risk to swing a trade...
He only has value on that contract if he's playing like the best goalie in the world (even then, the value is minimal). If that isn't happening, he has negative value.
He only has value on that contract if he's playing like the best goalie in the world (even then, the value is minimal). If that isn't happening, he has negative value.
