Proposal: Carey Price to the Avalanche

[connormcmuffin]

The difference is if, god forbid, Montreal trips over themselves and Kotkaniemi is a #1C and they get say Jack Hughes and another bad ass top 3 pick the next year.... All of a sudden that 5.25M that doesn't matter becomes a HUGE deal. Nevermind that you're asking ownership to pay 40M to a player to NOT play for them.

There is no way in ****ing hell that ANY team would retain 5M on a guy for 7-8 years. None. Even if they print money like NYR or Toronto. Nobody is paying a dude 40M over 8 years to have them gone and only getting one first es round pick for that trouble.

And Carey Price at 5.25M for 7 years? He gets you a HELL of a lot more than one first round pick, unprotected or not.

Vs the savings on that prospect's ELC, add a bridge, thats 5-6 years.

Getting a franchise cornerstone not to mention put your own team in tank mode by getting rid of Price, look at the big picture because today sucks or stay the course and have Price play you out of top ten picks?

Half measures = bad team that doesn't improve

Choice is obvious, Avs are the ones that should be hesitant.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Youre not.

Price is a great goalie on a lengthy contract nobody is giving 2 1's, Makar or equivalent plus a prospect. Think back to Roy who was better he never returned nearly that from the Avalanche. Goalies just don't ever return as much as positional players it just is like that. Price is 31 already and has 8 years remaining on deal would you trade that much for him??

 

[Andrei79]

Habs heading into a rebuild with arguably the best goalie in the world under contract during his prime years. Probably in both the Habs and Price's best interests to get him out of there.

I think the Avalanche are a fit because they could afford him now and post raises coming up, as well as being a team very much on the rise.

Assuming Varly is let go and assuming Grubauer doesnt step up and take the #1 spot, Price would be a dream option.

Now what would Habs fans want and what are Avs fans willing to give?

Price has a 10.5 AAV for 7 more years.

Actually, he has 10.5 for 8 more years. The season hasn't started yet.

 

[Starat327]

Price is a great goalie on a lengthy contract nobody is giving 2 1's, Makar or equivalent plus a prospect. Think back to Roy who was better he never returned nearly that from the Avalanche. Goalies just don't ever return as much as positional players it just is like that. Price is 31 already and has 8 years remaining on deal would you trade that much for him??

Youre still not doing it right.

 

[Perratrooper]

I was thinking about this myself the other day and I see a few problems:
- Prices cap hit, it’s not something any team will easily wanting to take on or give Montreal a good return.
- Montreal would likely have to retain serious cap (2-3mil/year) in order for them to maximize the return and with 7 years left I don’t think that would be overly appeasing to Montreal.
- If retaining that much, would Colorado be filling to work up what Montreal would want in order to makeup for the cap hit.
- Finally Price has a NMC which could make everything void.

My proposal is the following:

To Colorado:
Price at 7.5mil (3mil retained)

To Montreal:
Varlamov
Timmins
Kamenev
Colorado 2020 first
Colorado 2019 second

 

[Yamazaki]

I hope the Habs never trade him. This way for 8 years they will draft between 10-14 and never have a true rebuild.

A decade of purgatory for the habs would be amazing lol

 

[Captain Controversy]

MB isn't quite Dorion/Melnyk level, They would probably get good value.

That said, I wouldn't be interested in that contract or the cost to obtain Price. We have Varly for a year along with Grubauer and Francouz, we should hopefully be alright in goal for awhile.

Did you see the Weber / Subban trade ?

 

[not a troll]

I was thinking about this myself the other day and I see a few problems:
- Prices cap hit, it’s not something any team will easily wanting to take on or give Montreal a good return.
- Montreal would likely have to retain serious cap (2-3mil/year) in order for them to maximize the return and with 7 years left I don’t think that would be overly appeasing to Montreal.
- If retaining that much, would Colorado be filling to work up what Montreal would want in order to makeup for the cap hit.
- Finally Price has a NMC which could make everything void.

My proposal is the following:

To Colorado:
Price at 7.5mil (3mil retained)

To Montreal:
Varlamov
Timmins
Kamenev
Colorado 2020 first
Colorado 2019 second

I wouldn't even give you Ottawa's 2019 3rd for Price.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

I hope the Habs never trade him. This way for 8 years they will draft between 10-14 and never have a true rebuild.

A decade of purgatory for the habs would be amazing lol

But but but the Habs arent rebuilding. They have a really really good NHL caliber roster...

 

[Perratrooper]

I wouldn't even give you Ottawa's 2019 3rd for Price.

I’m an Avs fan, so don’t know how that would work.

 

[T_Cage]

I mean.
..last time Colorado acquired a high end Goalie from Montreal it worked out well for them...

 

[CraigsList]

Habs heading into a rebuild with arguably the best goalie in the world under contract during his prime years. Probably in both the Habs and Price's best interests to get him out of there.

I think the Avalanche are a fit because they could afford him now and post raises coming up, as well as being a team very much on the rise.

Assuming Varly is let go and assuming Grubauer doesnt step up and take the #1 spot, Price would be a dream option.

Now what would Habs fans want and what are Avs fans willing to give?

Price has a 10.5 AAV for 7 more years.

Doesn't make sense for the Avs at all. Why would they go out of their way of paying for Grubauer and then get Price?

 

[forsbergavs32]

I mean.
..last time Colorado acquired a high end Goalie from Montreal it worked out well for them...

Would call Jose Theodore a goalie that worked out for us

 

[82Ninety42011]

Youre still not doing it right.

Can you show me any trade in history where the goalie returned anything close to what you are asking? Patrick Roy to me was better and he got less. I'm being serious please explain.

 

[shello]

Can't imagine Montreal is a fan of trading goalies to Colorado

 

[bobholly39]

Same thing was said about EK65.
We know how that worked out.

Dorion is an idiot

Bergevin may not be the best gm around but he doesnt sell assets low and never has. And he also values Price VERY high.

I don't think a trade gets done or even discussed regarding Price anytime soon - but if it did the price would definitely be high. EK trade is not the proper comparison

 

[Kent Nilsson]

Dorion is an idiot

Bergevin may not be the best gm around but he doesnt sell assets low and never has. And he also values Price VERY high.

I don't think a trade gets done or even discussed regarding Price anytime soon - but if it did the price would definitely be high. EK trade is not the proper comparison

Hes done it multiple times. In fact, he gets owned in most major deals he makes (Subban, Drouin, Galchenyuk trades, Subban/Price contracts).

 

[bobholly39]

Hes done it multiple times. In fact, he gets owned in most major deals he makes (Subban, Drouin, Galchenyuk trades, Subban/Price contracts).

Im not saying he has a great track record of big trades but the returns in most of those trades are decent.

Weber is a fantastic defender with a lot of value. Subban never should have been traded but its not like he was traded for a Larsson or some random prospect and 2nd round pick.

People around the hockey world were very very high on Drouin. He stumbled a bit last year but i dont think thats a bad trade still today.

Galch - sure maybe. I think hes better than Domi - but again Domi is a decent enough player and they had all but given up on Galch in montreal.

Bergevin values Price higher than any of those assets. My argument has less to do about discussing Bergevins trade record than to say theres no way he trades Price for a low return.

If Bergevin were to trade Price in the short term (barring some unexpected drastic change in circumstances) - expect a VERY high return.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Weber was just named captain. What rebuild?

So teams in rebuilds don't have captains?

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

never offer price to those tuneled vision hf posters. It won't end well

The only HF contingent that defends that horrendous contract to the bitter end is Habs fans.

Might that suggest that you guys are the ones with the tunnel vision?

 

[Stealth JD]

I don’t think Price’s contract gets picked up on waivers, let alone paid for in actual NHL-quality assets. I’d offer Allen, Steen & a depth defender...but even then $2.5M would need to be retained, and I’m still scared shitless of that contract if I’m STL. Bergevin got backed into a corner and would’ve been better off trading Price as a pending-UFA than hand him what will very likely be the worst contract given since the league put a time-limit on contract lengths.

Hope it’s warm, because MTL is going to be laying in the bed they’ve made themselves for quite a while.

 

[Starat327]

Can you show me any trade in history where the goalie returned anything close to what you are asking? Patrick Roy to me was better and he got less. I'm being serious please explain.

Yup, still not doing it right.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Dorion is an idiot

Bergevin may not be the best gm around but he doesnt sell assets low and never has. And he also values Price VERY high.

...what?

He sold Subban for cheap and got punked in the Sergachev deal. What do you mean he never “sells low”?

 

[habsgirl5000]

Habs heading into a rebuild with arguably the best goalie in the world

did you actually watch him play last season?

he isn't even the best goalie in his own division

 

[bobholly39]

...what?

He sold Subban for cheap and got punked in the Sergachev deal. What do you mean he never “sells low”?

I literally explained myself like 5 posts up lol.

Weber is a great return. Yes Subban is better and worth more and he NEVER should have been traded - but it's not like the return itself was horrible. And I still think Drouin's potential is immense, so disagree on that one

Neither are anywhere near comparable to Karlsson. In fact i'd argue sens got less for Karlsson than Montreal got for either Subban or Sergachev - and Karlsson's value should have been much higher.