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- Sep 6, 2006
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Interesting:
Canes trade LD DeHaan ($4.55M) and Aleksi Saarela ($753K)
for
Gustav Forsling ($874K) and Anton Forsberg ($775)
Cutting their cap spending by $3.3654M.
Then they sign LD Gardiner for $4.05M and waive Forsling and Forsberg.
They may come out of this with Gardiner over DeHaan and Saarela plus an extra ~$2M+ in cap space.
And traded Faulk ($4.8M cap, $6M real dollars, 1 year left on his deal) for Edmundson ($3.1m cap, $3.1M real dollars, 1 year left on his deal) and recent first rounder Bokk
Saarela likely would have been waived as well so it's:
- CDH ($4.55M) and Faulk ($4.83M)
+ Gardiner ($4.05M) and Edmunson ($3.1M) and picking up Bokk in the process.
Hockey fans generally dislike smallish, in height or playstyle, offensive defensemen that are perceived to be bad defensively. The argument is generally that the job of the position is to play defense. The exposure that comes with playing in a high profile market exacerbates things. Erik Karlsson has been and continues to be a polarizing player for a reason.
he's 6'2" 205lb ...he is not small, but he is not physical
Saarela was waivers-exempt this season, but yes, your point remains the same. To me, Gardiner and Edmundson are net-upgrades over CDH and Faulk for less AAV. If the Canes were cheap elsewhere on the roster, I would've complained a bit, but no, they got Dzingel and Haula, as well, and got Toronto's 1st for $6M in cap space. The absolute last thing that our management was this year was "cheap".
Plenty of us like Gardiner in Toronto. Hes a polarizing player though, I will admit. Its always been bizarre to me that Gardiner gets so much hate for no apparent reason. $4 million is a steal for what you're getting. As far as idiots go, okay, sure. As if the guy wasnt criticized like crazy outside of Toronto. All we've heard as Leafs fans for years is how hes garbage. Trying to zero the hate on Leafs fans is crazy. HF has done nothing but shit all over the guy.I don't know what it is about Gardiner that makes people want him to fail. He's by all accounts a great person, good in the locker room, good in the community. Had to deal with a portion of idiot fans in Toronto and the media suggesting he is the worst hockey player ever, and came out every game (even in game 7's) to face the media and own up to ****.
And yet, even now, there are some fans in this thread rooting against him. I am so pumped I get to keep following this guy closely.
Literally goes to show you how the Toronto media play a role. Gardiner is 10x the dman Myers is and got half the contract. This made my entire day. So pumped.
A couple months in and I think you missed once again on this one Kami.
Jakes back still seems to be an issue, which is likely what drove his cap hit down.
The people that blamed Gardiner for most of the Leafs woes want to feel justified in their hate, if Gardiner was playing well then they would have to face the fact that their playoff problems were more than just Gardiner being terrible.I don't know what it is about Gardiner that makes people want him to fail. He's by all accounts a great person, good in the locker room, good in the community. Had to deal with a portion of idiot fans in Toronto and the media suggesting he is the worst hockey player ever, and came out every game (even in game 7's) to face the media and own up to ****.
And yet, even now, there are some fans in this thread rooting against him. I am so pumped I get to keep following this guy closely.
I don't know what it is about Gardiner that makes people want him to fail. He's by all accounts a great person, good in the locker room, good in the community. Had to deal with a portion of idiot fans in Toronto and the media suggesting he is the worst hockey player ever, and came out every game (even in game 7's) to face the media and own up to ****.
And yet, even now, there are some fans in this thread rooting against him. I am so pumped I get to keep following this guy closely.
Gardiner has been bad. There’s no denying that. He suffered an injury in camp, which I think was a re-aggravation of his back issues. However, he has looked better over the past few games. I’m willing to give him time, just look at how being patient with Hamilton worked out for CAR, and I don’t see many teams lining up to take him and the 3 more years on his deal given his current level of performance. Not to mention, the optics would look real bad for CAR after trading another D, recently signed, 1 year into their contract.
Gardiner is signed to a very reasonable cap hit and I think CAR will be patient with him and hope he can eventually slot next to Pesce in the top 4. It’s not like they really have a lot of options there anyway. I do not think they should shut him down for a few weeks and let him heal, if it’s truly the back giving him problems. They certainly have the depth to let him rest up and get back to 100%.
This happens often. Though it is true we as a fan base shoulder a lot of the blame.Plenty of us like Gardiner in Toronto. Hes a polarizing player though, I will admit. Its always been bizarre to me that Gardiner gets so much hate for no apparent reason. $4 million is a steal for what you're getting. As far as idiots go, okay, sure. As if the guy wasnt criticized like crazy outside of Toronto. All we've heard as Leafs fans for years is how hes garbage. Trying to zero the hate on Leafs fans is crazy. HF has done nothing but **** all over the guy.
Hockey fans generally dislike smallish, in height or playstyle, offensive defensemen that are perceived to be bad defensively. The argument is generally that the job of the position is to play defense. The exposure that comes with playing in a high profile market exacerbates things. Erik Karlsson has been and continues to be a polarizing player for a reason.
being a combined minus -8Plenty of us like Gardiner in Toronto. Hes a polarizing player though, I will admit. Its always been bizarre to me that Gardiner gets so much hate for no apparent reason. $4 million is a steal for what you're getting. As far as idiots go, okay, sure. As if the guy wasnt criticized like crazy outside of Toronto. All we've heard as Leafs fans for years is how hes garbage. Trying to zero the hate on Leafs fans is crazy. HF has done nothing but **** all over the guy.