Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR] Canes sign Scott Darling (4 years, $4.15m AAV)

[Alexei Yashvalev]

Goalies are lottery tickets. Their performances from year to year are highly inconsistent, even among the elite ones.

Just the nature of the way the position is played now.

Personal theory: It's not humanly possible to get by on reflexes anymore with how player stick technology has evolved, gotta play the percentages read the play and hope the puck hits you. Sometimes even when the percentages are in your favour you get unlucky and even though the goalie is doing the right thing percentage/technique wise they get scored on. Then they get down on themselves mentally because the right thing didn't work and get into a funk where they don't do the right thing and make it worse on themselves.

 

[Jacob]

I'm sure in your 40,000 posts you've never made a bad player evaluation.

Please PM me your resume so I can forward it to the Canes. If not them, I'm sure your expertise will be valued by another team.

“My team’s front office is more qualified than a poster on a message board hahaha checkmate loser.”

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

I met Scott Darling before this season and I was wearing his jersey the day I did. He was very nice, signed it and said, "You don't see many of those anymore." I told him I believed in him knowing how hard everyone was on him last year. He had worked really hard in the offseason to get back in shape and Canes PR had put out media of the work to try to repair his image and salvage him for this year. It turned out it just didn't work here in Carolina.

I am glad he took the leave. His career is probably over now at the NHL level. Treat the demons. I don't want a post here soon about how he isn't with us anymore. I only speak for myself but this is way beyond hockey and I pray for a guy who has made mistakes but who hasn't gone so far he can't come back. Get well man.

 

[Seph]

Not really...just scout properly?

Jacques Plant Era
Ken Dryden (1970-1979)
Patrick Roy (1984-1996)
Jose Theodore (1995-2007)
Jaroslav Halak (2006-2010)
Carey Price (2007-present)

Theodore had two good seasons for Montreal, Halak about three, and Price has had about seven if we include this one. So, in the 22 seasons since 1996 the team you claim has scouted goalies properly has gotten 12 seasons of good starting goaltending.

Kinda seems like you're making their point for them.

 

[varano]

Just the nature of the way the position is played now.

Personal theory: It's not humanly possible to get by on reflexes anymore with how player stick technology has evolved, gotta play the percentages read the play and hope the puck hits you. Sometimes even when the percentages are in your favour you get unlucky and even though the goalie is doing the right thing percentage/technique wise they get scored on. Then they get down on themselves mentally because the right thing didn't work and get into a funk where they don't do the right thing and make it worse on themselves.

Its the hardest position to play mentally.

 

[Torontoborn]

Wow good for the Darling

and bad for the canes.

 

[DANTHEMAN1967]

Funny how you ignored fucale??

Or Andre "Red Light" Racicot.

 

[5150]

bad signing

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

bad signing

Ya think?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

I met Scott Darling before this season and I was wearing his jersey the day I did. He was very nice, signed it and said, "You don't see many of those anymore." I told him I believed in him knowing how hard everyone was on him last year. He had worked really hard in the offseason to get back in shape and Canes PR had put out media of the work to try to repair his image and salvage him for this year. It turned out it just didn't work here in Carolina.

I am glad he took the leave. His career is probably over now at the NHL level. Treat the demons. I don't want a post here soon about how he isn't with us anymore. I only speak for myself but this is way beyond hockey and I pray for a guy who has made mistakes but who hasn't gone so far he can't come back. Get well man.

Agreed 100%. I know I’ve definitely expressed my anger towards his lack of professionalism coming in overweight and out of shape after signing with us but none of that matters in the grand scheme of things. It’s just a game and what matters more is that he can get back to being healthy and happy. I wish him the best of luck going forward.

 

[SvechneJerk]

I met Scott Darling before this season and I was wearing his jersey the day I did. He was very nice, signed it and said, "You don't see many of those anymore." I told him I believed in him knowing how hard everyone was on him last year. He had worked really hard in the offseason to get back in shape and Canes PR had put out media of the work to try to repair his image and salvage him for this year. It turned out it just didn't work here in Carolina.

I am glad he took the leave. His career is probably over now at the NHL level. Treat the demons. I don't want a post here soon about how he isn't with us anymore. I only speak for myself but this is way beyond hockey and I pray for a guy who has made mistakes but who hasn't gone so far he can't come back. Get well man.

Well said.

 

[ottawa]

Theodore had two good seasons for Montreal, Halak about three, and Price has had about seven if we include this one. So, in the 22 seasons since 1996 the team you claim has scouted goalies properly has gotten 12 seasons of good starting goaltending.

Kinda seems like you're making their point for them.

We had #1 goalies, whether they had good seasons or not is dependent on a lot of factors. The scouting was fine properly, every goalie mentioned is indeed a starter.

 

[Seph]

We had #1 goalies, whether they had good seasons or not is dependent on a lot of factors. The scouting was fine properly, every goalie mentioned is indeed a starter.

A starter for some seasons, but hardly what you'd want in a starter for others. If proper scouting can only get you just over half the seasons of having a starter you actually want, then the phrase"crapshoot" certainly comes to mind.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

In the end, things worked out just fine for Carolina. Hopefully Darling gets things together on his end.

 

[justafan22]

There's only so many ways to pickup netminders in this league to be your #1.

The league is pretty split on how to get them:
1) Draft and develop them for years.
2) Trade for a backup goalie and hope to God he becomes that starter.
3) Sign a legit 1G for legit 1G money.

There were probably 15 other teams in the league that probably were in line to get Darling when he was moved and signed. His numbers from being a backup in Chicago were outstanding. This backfired in the worst of ways, but there's no way you could have predicted it at the time though because his numbers coming from Chicago were fantastic.

People thought they would get the next Andersen when it just didn't work out.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

People thought they would get the next Andersen when it just didn't work out.

We had the 1st Andersen, he just refused to sign.

 

[ottawa]

A starter for some seasons, but hardly what you'd want in a starter for others. If proper scouting can only get you just over half the seasons of having a starter you actually want, then the phrase"crapshoot" certainly comes to mind.

How does a goalie like Price go from starter to backup? same with Halak or Theo...you're losing a shit ton of credibility here, you should make a poll asking if any of them are backups.

 

[Seph]

How does a goalie like Price go from starter to backup? same with Halak or Theo...you're losing a **** ton of credibility here, you should make a poll asking if any of them are backups.

I didn't call them backups. But when a starter has a season where they play poorly, it should not be considered a successful season for them. A poor season should be considered a failure, regardless of where you play in the lineup. And frankly, I think you lose credibility if you believe a bad season is a successful season for a goalie just because the backup wasn't able to take the mantle from them.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

The real question is does he go to the buyout pile that Semin is still on or do you eat the contract the next two instead of the buyout portion the next four.

99% chance he's bought out. It saves the Canes money and doesn't affect their team (since it seems like he's done as an NHLer)

 

[jimslob]

Carolina isn't exactly a top UFA destination, unfortunately sometimes it costs them more to get a desirable player and I think all of Carolina, Calgary, Vegas, Dallas, Vancouver and Philly would have been pushing for Darling.

Not in the know about all those teams mentioned.

But why on earth are the Canucks being mentioned as interested?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Not in the know about all those teams mentioned.

But why on earth are the Canucks being mentioned as interested?

You are responding to a two year old post. Nobody is interested now.

 

[Reddwit]

I love bumps that cause tension.

HF used to be better than this.

I originally joined HF in 2004 but had to abandon my original account after being doxxed to the point of stalking around 2013. HF is much more tame than it used to be.

 

[hangman005]

Do not believe this required the necrobump.