Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2021 "Season" Pt. 2

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MacLellan did a presser today. Wide ranging. His comments on Ov indicate that he has been injured. He said that it wasnt quite injuries and then later said it was injuries. So, he has been injured. His comments on Kuznetsov would indicate that he has been relying on his eye test more than his analytics information. He loves the defense corp
 
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I would almost rather they sell Panik at the deadline, even for a ham sandwich, to keep Sheary and Sprong in the lineup and free up some cap space.

Whats the point in extra cap space. I wanna move Panik to upgrade Panik.

Having Sheary or Sprong as the 13th forward is one of those good problems.
 
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We can trade Siege for a forward to balance better our team. With superrior players coming next season (Alexeyev and Fever) we have no need in this ECHL SH specialist guy.
 

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Whats the point in extra cap space. I wanna move Panik to upgrade Panik.

Having Sheary or Sprong as the 13th forward is one of those good problems.

Well Vrana will need a new deal soon if we want to keep him. We may not want to have two young unproved goalies forever, we may want a mid level vet #2 at some point (Lundqvuist's don't grow on trees). Schultz seems like a guy we may want for more than 2 years.

And I heard they may want to resign Ovi for $12.5M :D
 

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What kind of forward would the Caps get for Siege? Nobody better than what the team currently has.
Debatable. Young cheap reliable defensive guy. Big, healthy, fearless.

Imagine you can get young cheap player of Panik's mold. It could be an upgrade strategically.
 

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Well Vrana will need a new deal soon if we want to keep him. We may not want to have two young unproved goalies forever, we may want a mid level vet #2 at some point (Lundqvuist's don't grow on trees). Schultz seems like a guy we may want for more than 2 years.

And I heard they may want to resign Ovi for $12.5M :D
I hate it bc hes playing so well now. But I would look to trade Vrana before his contract ext. It wont be less then 6.5
 

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MacLellan did a presser today. Wide ranging. His comments on Ov indicate that he has been injured. He said that it wasnt quite injuries and then later said it was injuries. So, he has been injured. His comments on Kuznetsov would indicate that he has been relying on his eye test more than his analytics information. He loves the defense corp

Interesting that they admitted Ovie had been injured.

Hopefully he's 100% now.
 

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I hate it bc hes playing so well now. But I would look to trade Vrana before his contract ext. It wont be less then 6.5
This. If you look closely at his game..he basically has no game other than getting into the right spots occasionally and scoring goals. In before some smartasses come after me for this remark - yeah, scoring goals is the point but he's not scoring them enough to look away when he does whole lotta nothing the rest of the game, constantly gives the puck away, can't pull off a successful deke to save his life and look like a total liability on the power play. I'm sorry but this whole package with 25-30 goals a season is not worth the kind of extension Vrana would be looking for in the summer. Maclellan needs to trade him for a player of equal or close productivity but lesser amount of negative optics on the ice.
 

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Interesting that they admitted Ovie had been injured.

Hopefully he's 100% now.

I am thinking that was on purpose. That there has been increasing pressure coming that Ov has finally gone over the hill. Explaining it with injuries explains the drop off in production while his recent play suggests he is past the point where that is effecting him. He has looked hat trick ready each of the last few games.

It struck me that he is one of those 5 goals in 2 games away from being all up in the Rocket fight
 

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I was thinking that was going to be their plan.

Hank looks remarkable in his posted videos. Mac says that he has seen them like the rest of us with amazement. He said the training staff has been in touch and are working with him. From what Ive seen he looks like a professional goalie in those videos. Not sure what his stamina is like from those but his movements are sharp and crisp.

The Caps could have terminated the contract but chose to LTIR him. I have to think that was done for a reason other than they were being nice. They must know he intends to play again and was told by the doctors that if things went well, that he could play again. I went thru exactly this with my heart situation and my racing career.

It would not take a lot of cap space for him to play a game right at the end of the season and be available for the playoffs
 

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Just to be clear, GMBM suggested Lundy coming back to the NHL was an uphill, unlikely challenge, but was positively surprised by the progress he’s made and is open to a potential return should it be possible. No way in hell the Caps are basing their TDL and postseason plans on the slight chance Lundy can rejoin the team, much less play. What a story if he can, though.

Realistically one of Panik, Hagelin or Jensen probably has to be moved to bring anyone vaguely significant in. I think him bringing in a new #3 goaltender who can sit on the taxi squad, and another Center capable of playing bottom-6 minutes if called upon, might be the most he tries this year.
 

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Just to be clear, GMBM suggested Lundy coming back to the NHL was an uphill, unlikely challenge, but was positively surprised by the progress he’s made and is open to a potential return should it be possible. No way in hell the Caps are basing their TDL and postseason plans on the slight chance Lundy can rejoin the team, much less play. What a story if he can, though.

Realistically one of Panik, Hagelin or Jensen probably has to be moved to bring anyone vaguely significant in. I think him bringing in a new #3 goaltender who can sit on the taxi squad, and another Center capable of playing bottom-6 minutes if called upon, might be the most he tries this year.

I think thats what "he wouldnt rule it out means". Last I heard was that it was ruled out. Things have changed apparantly. As far as vaguely significant goes, I am not sure who that would be. Is there a real goalie that is a pending ufa on a losing team?
 

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I think thats what "he wouldnt rule it out means". Last I heard was that it was ruled out. Things have changed apparantly. As far as vaguely significant goes, I am not sure who that would be. Is there a real goalie that is a pending ufa on a losing team?

Vaguely significant as in more than an AHLer/tweener. Unless someone’s willing to give up a player on essentially an ELC - a 2017 Kempny, or 2021 Lehtonen, but a forward or G - I just don’t see it happening. One article suggested a retained David Ridditch if Calgary fall out of playoff contention, but he doesn’t strike me as more than a backup on a contender.

That’s why I can see them trying to find a Michael Hutchinson-type goaltender who can sit on the taxi squad with some NHL experience, so there’s no circumstance in which they’re forced to play Craig Anderson if one of VV/IS gets injured and the other falters. Copley’s AHL numbers have hardly been inspiring. I definitely think they need a 5C - they didn’t ever replace Stephenson and Boyd, and whatever you think of them as regular Caps they were essential depth.

I’m also not convinced by people who want to see Sprong as a regular over Panik, to the point they’d move Panik just to make that happen. Sprong can score goals, which Panik doesn’t, but come playoff time I don’t see the coaching staff trusting Sprong in situations they’ll trust Panik in. Panik isn’t a defensive liability, cycles well with Eller, skates well and can throw the body. Those things are important come playoffs, even though we need more offensive output from his spot. But I’m not sure the cost of moving out his contract, added to the cost of a significant upgrade, would be worth it.

Edited to add: I think neither the Caps nor Lundy thought a return this season was possible, and have been as surprised as the rest of us by what he’s achieved. So they haven’t closed the door, no, but I doubt his return is part of the Caps plan B, or plan C or D for that matter.
 

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Pierre LeBrun thinks that the Caps should go after Rittich:

LeBrun: Trade fits these 6 contenders should explore ahead of NHL deadline

David Rittich to the Washington Capitals

The sense I get out of Washington is that the next few weeks will be important to get a better feel for Ilya Samsonov and where he is with his game. In the big picture, I think there’s confidence in thinking he’s their No. 1 guy for years to come. But is that level of consistency going to be there this season? The Caps are all-in and the window to win is tight. So it’s why I think if there’s still any doubt at all closer to April 12 they go out and bring in some insurance in goal. And what better fit than Rittich, who is a pending UFA. The Caps have almost zero cap room so they’d need the Flames to eat at least half of Rittich’s $2.75 million cap hit. And it goes without saying that Rittich would only be available one presumes if the Flames under new coach Darryl Sutter haven’t made a run back into the playoff picture. But all things being equal, I like this fit for Washington.
Rittich? LOL. Please. Why trade for a 2b G? That helps how?

Dubnyk is also an FA. 4.33m. Sharks can retain and rake back Panik or Jensen. Plus or minus whatever to make it work.

DD at least has had playoff experience and has had 2 decent statistical years while doing so. He’d be the type of insurance guy I would want. FA that won’t cost too much.

Even that — not completely sold.
 

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I am thinking that was on purpose. That there has been increasing pressure coming that Ov has finally gone over the hill. Explaining it with injuries explains the drop off in production while his recent play suggests he is past the point where that is effecting him. He has looked hat trick ready each of the last few games.

It struck me that he is one of those 5 goals in 2 games away from being all up in the Rocket fight
Mathews has 21.
McDavid has 17.

they play in a shit defensive division. Unless they both get injured for at least 6+ games, Ovechkin’s Rocket streak is over. Even if 5 goals in 2 games. He’s at 14 and still only 2/3 the way to Mathews.

not happening this year. Which is ok. I’d welcome Ovechkin having the most goals in our division. Apples to apples star comparisons. That is still attainable with a “5 in 2” run. (Kreider at 13 — Marchand and Pastrnak at 12).
 

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Vaguely significant as in more than an AHLer/tweener. Unless someone’s willing to give up a player on essentially an ELC - a 2017 Kempny, or 2021 Lehtonen, but a forward or G - I just don’t see it happening. One article suggested a retained David Ridditch if Calgary fall out of playoff contention, but he doesn’t strike me as more than a backup on a contender.

That’s why I can see them trying to find a Michael Hutchinson-type goaltender who can sit on the taxi squad with some NHL experience, so there’s no circumstance in which they’re forced to play Craig Anderson if one of VV/IS gets injured and the other falters. Copley’s AHL numbers have hardly been inspiring. I definitely think they need a 5C - they didn’t ever replace Stephenson and Boyd, and whatever you think of them as regular Caps they were essential depth.

I’m also not convinced by people who want to see Sprong as a regular over Panik, to the point they’d move Panik just to make that happen. Sprong can score goals, which Panik doesn’t, but come playoff time I don’t see the coaching staff trusting Sprong in situations they’ll trust Panik in. Panik isn’t a defensive liability, cycles well with Eller, skates well and can throw the body. Those things are important come playoffs, even though we need more offensive output from his spot. But I’m not sure the cost of moving out his contract, added to the cost of a significant upgrade, would be worth it.

Edited to add: I think neither the Caps nor Lundy thought a return this season was possible, and have been as surprised as the rest of us by what he’s achieved. So they haven’t closed the door, no, but I doubt his return is part of the Caps plan B, or plan C or D for that matter.

I actually think Lundqvist expects to be able to play. What got me thru my mess was a blindness to the collateral damage my procedure might cause. I just went along as if I could and there was not even a bump in to road. Its how some people cope. I dont MacLellan thought it was possible for this season at least and moved on. The grin on his face yesterday exposed how surprised and happy he is about how its working out.
Imagine the boost having him just on the taxi squad for playoffs would be for the group.

Anderson for his part is confident that he can play just fine given the chance.

Panik, like Jensen and Hagelin is a player fans cant see the way the team sees them. Sprong can score but its clear the coaches dont like him. I am guessing his decisions and coverages are bad. That he doesnt respond well to coaching. Where Panik does what they tell him to do effectively. Panik is never a scratch and Sprong always is. That should tell people something
 

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Mathews has 21.
McDavid has 17.

they play in a shit defensive division. Unless they both get injured for at least 6+ games, Ovechkin’s Rocket streak is over. Even if 5 goals in 2 games. He’s at 14 and still only 2/3 the way to Mathews.

not happening this year. Which is ok. I’d welcome Ovechkin having the most goals in our division. Apples to apples star comparisons. That is still attainable with a “5 in 2” run.

Noted and bookmarked
 
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