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Siegenthaler has been playing pretty well so I really don’t understand him sitting. I’d have gone with Kempny to give him a bit of a reset, but hey what do I know
Flawed analysis when you are using the results of what other GMs did with the draft picks.But also, heres what have been picked with our TDL costly picks;
2014 (4th) - Ryan Mantha (0 NHL games)
2015 (2nd) - Jeremy Lauzon (20 NHL games)
2015 (3rd) - Jens Looke (0 NHL games)
2015 (4th) - Brad Morrison (0 NHL games)
2016 (2nd) - Carl Grundström (24 NHL games)
2017 (1st) - Klim Kostin (4 NHL games)
2017 (3rd) - Oskari Laaksonen (0 NHL games)
2018 (3rd) - WTF, we drafted Riley Sutter ourselves?
2019 (3rd) - Lukas Parik
2019 (5th) - Matvei Guskov
2020 (2nd) - ?
So thats total of 48 NHL games lost. Thats a fraction of how many NHL games we have got From those. Kempny/Jerabek haul got us the Stanley Cup. Jensen and Hagelin are Still here. Id say we have done OK on TDL.
And just to compare furthermore, best players who could have been picked within 10 picks below those that were used;
2014 (4th) - Viktor Arvidsson (ouch)
2015 (2nd) - Jonas Siegenhalert (hey, we did get the guy!) (okok.. Rasmus Andersson)
2015 (3rd) - Aleksi Saarela
2015 (4th) - Mathieu Joseph
2016 (2nd) - Adam Fox (ouch)
2017 (1st) - Eeli Tolvanen
2017 (3rd) - nobody
2019 (3rd) - Aliaksei Protas (hey, we did get the guy)
2019 (5th) - Martin Hugo Has (hey, we did get the guy)
So even if you think that we would have been superb lucky to get those picks absolutely right, the haul is Still not that crazy.
In general I think our scouting/GM have done crazy good job on knowing when to trade picks away, when to keep it, and especially how to use them. Our drafting has been good, and we find ways to get the guys we want Trading up.
And then there is the Forsberg trade.
** There might be some errors, I did this search quickly and didnt check up.
If BIG Buff becomes a UFA and is looking to sign with a contender on a one year min deal.
I would jump on it, and to convince him I would tell him we have the cap space (after Holtby is gone) to extend him if it’s a good fit.
Yeh he hasn’t played hockey in a year is 34 and could be DSP on D. But I would still take the low risk move.
Flawed analysis when you are using the results of what other GMs did with the draft picks.
This is the unknown factor but look at the 2015 NHL draft for the Capitals. Caps drafted Samsonov in the first round, Siegenthaler in the second, several picks behind the pick that they sent to Calgary for Glencross. They also traded the 3rd round pick in that Glencross trade. They did not pick again until the 5th round, Connor Hobbs and the 6th round, Colby Williams. Players that were drafted between the 2nd rd pick sent to Calgary and Siegenthaler, Defenseman Vince Dunn for St. Louis Blues, players available in the third round after the Caps pick that went to Calgary, Florida Panthers Denis Malgin. Who's to say what BMAC might have done with those picks had he retained them, but Glencross's time here was less than memorable.
I don't understand this compulsion with some Caps fans here that as the TDL approaches it seems it's an annual ritual that they believe the Caps must do something at the TDL to improve the team or to move the needle otherwise it's a failure on management's part. Except for the Kempny trade (which was actually the Devils pick that came to the Caps in the MAJO trade) rarely do we see it improve the team going into the playoffs and at times it has the reverse impact, i.e. Kevin Shattenkirk.
As we often here, sometimes the best trades are . . .
Buff is a locker room crap shoot. Pass
Siegenthaler has been playing pretty well so I really don’t understand him sitting. I’d have gone with Kempny to give him a bit of a reset, but hey what do I know
GMBM wanting to see what he has in Fever sounds like he is considering a move on D.
I am so happy. I know most people are clamoring for Jensen to be the guy sitting but this is a baby step and I will take it.
Has he had issues besides Evander Kane?
Hasn’t he also worn the A?
I went over the last ten games and Jonas has been pretty hit or miss lately.
Jonas Siegenthaler - Game Log - On Ice - Natural Stat Trick
As opposed to Jensen who has been a pretty steady possession player:
Nick Jensen - Game Log - On Ice - Natural Stat Trick