Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) -- 2018-19 We Are The Champions Edition - Pt. 3

[searle]

When to scratch and not scratch a struggling player is a tough call to make - everyone is different, and decisions should change based on the temperature of the locker room.

Dropping a struggling vet rather than keeping them in can go one of two ways; they take the game off to have a mental reset or they feel even worse and the slump continues.

There's no cookie cutter answer to this question

 

[maacoshark]

When to scratch and not scratch a struggling player is a tough call to make - everyone is different, and decisions should change based on the temperature of the locker room.

Dropping a struggling vet rather than keeping them in can go one of two ways; they take the game off to have a mental reset or they feel even worse and the slump continues.

There's no cookie cutter answer to this question

There's usually more to a player being scratched than just a slump. Effort and decision making are also factors.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Bouchard could factor in there I guess. Ottawa could have some spots. Maybe Detroit with Green out. I'm not sure he'd have strong value as far as draft pick return goes but perhaps a player swap could fit to their liking.

The Weber IR situation in Montreal is another possibility. Bergevin is always up for doing something crazy and the Caps do have a trade history with him.

I'll confess I've never seen Hobbs play. How's his skating compared to Bowey? As someone else has noted Bowey's scoring is not the concern, rather his decision making with the puck and his quick read of the game and subsequent distribution. He seemed to turn over the puck a bit last season.

As far as Reirden's comments, I have no problem with them. I think Trotz was more a head guy when it came to player management, that is trying to mentally or emotionally motivate players. He was a good talker as shown in his post game comments and quips such as "If you want to get somewhere fast go alone, if you want to get somewhere far go together". Reirden may not be cut from that cloth and be more straight forward and direct with players.

 

[txpd]

Just watched Reirden's presser from yesterday. Its interesting to see the lenths he is going NOT to say that DSP is out of shape

 

[HunterSThompson]

I'll confess I've never seen Hobbs play. How's his skating compared to Bowey? As someone else has noted Bowey's scoring is not the concern, rather his decision making with the puck and his quick read of the game and subsequent distribution. He seemed to turn over the puck a bit last season.

I agree with this about Bowey. He has the tools. The biggest challenge when moving up levels is the speed at which decisions need to be made. He hesitated a bit too much last year, as a lot of young guys do. He may never get to that level or he may be there this year or it could take him a bit longer.

 

[Hivemind]

Bouchard could factor in there I guess. Ottawa could have some spots. Maybe Detroit with Green out. I'm not sure he'd have strong value as far as draft pick return goes but perhaps a player swap could fit to their liking.

Ottawa could potentially have interest consider how young their blueline is and how cheap Bowey is. I assume Chabot will be taking over a lot of Karlsson's duties, at least when it comes to PP1 and offensive zone starts. But how much better is Bowey than Andreas Englund or Christian Jaros? Granted, Englund definitely plays a very different style than Bowey.

 

[Sam Spade]

No. You were talking about Orpik and only Orpik. I understand that

It's too easy to just say Orpik only, he is bad, he will have a ton of bad games.

Niskanen, Backstrom, Carlson, Ovie, Oshie for me that is the leadership group along with Orpik.

I thought Beagle, a team leader, had a ton of horrible stretches last season and he never got sat, so lesson here is learn how to win faceoffs boys.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

The real lesson is to leave the pro coaching moves to the pros.

It’s a long season....they all have up and downs. Ride it out and don’t make knee jerk roster decisions. As fans we only have a portion of the equation that goes into the decision to bench a Vet....what we see in a game.

 

[txpd]

It's too easy to just say Orpik only, he is bad, he will have a ton of bad games.

Niskanen, Backstrom, Carlson, Ovie, Oshie for me that is the leadership group along with Orpik.

I thought Beagle, a team leader, had a ton of horrible stretches last season and he never got sat, so lesson here is learn how to win faceoffs boys.

So, realistically how many games total do you think Niskanen, Backstrom, Carlson, Ovechkin, and Oshie combined will be a healthy scratch?

 

[Sam Spade]

So, realistically how many games total do you think Niskanen, Backstrom, Carlson, Ovechkin, and Oshie combined will be a healthy scratch?

Zero, because they won't suck for long stretches of time. And even if a player like Oshie isn't putting up points he is doing everything else possible.

 

[Hivemind]

Oshie has a prolonged series of suck last season, during which I got a lot of heat for suggesting he needed some time off.

 

[Carlzner]

The whole team had a prolonged period of suck.

 

[hb12xchamps]

Michael McCarron is a former 1st rounder with Montreal that seems like he could use a change of scenery. 6 foot 6 center prospect and is a right shot. Possibility for a Bowey swap

 

[Sam Spade]

Oshie has a prolonged series of suck last season, during which I got a lot of heat for suggesting he needed some time off.

The thing with Oshie is he does so much even when he is not scoring that one would be hard for me.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Well duh, Oshie was recovering from a head injury. Not rocket science...

 

[Hivemind]

The thing with Oshie is he does so much even when he is not scoring that one would be hard for me.

During the period I was referencing last year, he wasn't doing that stuff. He was a defensive sieve and turnover machine during that time. He was generally slow to react all over the ice.

 

[txpd]

Zero, because they won't suck for long stretches of time. And even if a player like Oshie isn't putting up points he is doing everything else possible.

so...we are back to 44 then

 

[dillyboy93]

Michael McCarron is a former 1st rounder with Montreal that seems like he could use a change of scenery. 6 foot 6 center prospect and is a right shot. Possibility for a Bowey swap

I'd think about doing it, I'm torn on if he'll become anything though. But even then if you move Bowey who becomes 7? Johansen, Seiginthaler, Hobbs etc are better off playing in Hershey and I would hate Ness to be around hahah

 

[txpd]

I'd think about doing it, I'm torn on if he'll become anything though. But even then if you move Bowey who becomes 7? Johansen, Seiginthaler, Hobbs etc are better off playing in Hershey and I would hate Ness to be around hahah

Based on today's presser Reirden seems to like Seiginthaler's camp. Based on comments he is looking at Bowey and Seigenthaler going to head to head for a roster spot starting tonight.

Also noticed again Reirden's use of the terms details and habits.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Oshie has a prolonged series of suck last season, during which I got a lot of heat for suggesting he needed some time off.

That’s because you were wrong.

 

[Ridley Simon]

I'd think about doing it, I'm torn on if he'll become anything though. But even then if you move Bowey who becomes 7? Johansen, Seiginthaler, Hobbs etc are better off playing in Hershey and I would hate Ness to be around hahah

Lewington seems a natural fit. Or a waiver guy

 

[Hivemind]

Ottawa could potentially have interest consider how young their blueline is and how cheap Bowey is. I assume Chabot will be taking over a lot of Karlsson's duties, at least when it comes to PP1 and offensive zone starts. But how much better is Bowey than Andreas Englund or Christian Jaros? Granted, Englund definitely plays a very different style than Bowey.

Thinking on this further, I wouldn't be entirely opposed to a D-for-D swap involving Bowey for a similar quality prospect in a numbers crunch elsewhere. Swap Bowey for a D prospect that has a little more PK and stay-at-home potential, who could slot in as a 7D in the short-term and get a season to audition as the Orpik replacement. Double bonus if they're a RHD, so Djoos can play on his natural side.

Someone like Jaros or Englund could be intriguing as options from Ottawa (preferably Jaros).

I have low confidence in Siegenthaler being a quality NHL option, especially after how disastrous he's looked in the pre-season.

 

[dillyboy93]

Lewington seems a natural fit. Or a waiver guy

Forgot about Lewington. I wonder if McCarron clears as well

 

[maacoshark]

During the period I was referencing last year, he wasn't doing that stuff. He was a defensive sieve and turnover machine during that time. He was generally slow to react all over the ice.

Ya Oshie did have a stretch when he struggled at pretty much everything. I remember him fumbling a lot of pucks.

 

[maacoshark]

Well duh, Oshie was recovering from a head injury. Not rocket science...

If Oshie really was still recovering from a concussion then he shouldn't have been in the lineup.