Alexander the Gr8
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Dont need to move him. He’s a free agent this summer
He's a RFA, we can trade his rights to another team.
Dont need to move him. He’s a free agent this summer
Fair enough but that particular goal was bad given the complete lack of rebound control.And opponents' forwards often have easy access to those rebounds.
Fair enough but that particular goal was bad given the complete lack of rebound control.
Ride it out. The Capitals generally do better when he's on the ice than when he's not, and he brings a lot more in terms of puck possession and tilting the ice than you're giving him credit for. Stop focusing purely on what you think players don't do, and start recognizing the things they do well. His hockey IQ, shot, vision, and ability to not just skate at speed but also make plays at speed are areas that the Capitals benefit from greatly. Even in that 8-4 debacle last night, he set up Carlson with a terrific cross-ice pass for 74's goal.What's your solution then? He brings nothing to the table aside from goalscoring, and he doesn't score when he's under pressure (no goals in the playoffs since the Cup year).
No argument from me on that.Or, maybe, just don't trade Vrana. Not sure how many whipping boys we need to see light it up for other franchises before people realize that they shouldn't be demanding all the speedy young forwards on the team be traded away.
For me it depends. I’ve seen some people on here saying he should get 5.5 to 6.5 million. At that AAV I would say hell no.No argument from me on that.
Fair enough but what would you pay him on a new contact?Ride it out. The Capitals generally do better when he's on the ice than when he's not, and he brings a lot more in terms of puck possession and tilting the ice than you're giving him credit for. Stop focusing purely on what you think players don't do, and start recognizing the things they do well. His hockey IQ, shot, vision, and ability to not just skate at speed but also make plays at speed are areas that the Capitals benefit from greatly. Even in that 8-4 debacle last night, he set up Carlson with a terrific cross-ice pass for 74's goal.
As for Vrana in the playoffs, your "since the Cup year" is conveniently ignoring some pretty big goals he scored in 2018. Moreover, plenty of people talked the same way about Burakovsky's playoff performances, then he busted out when it mattered most against Tampa Bay and followed that up with 17 points in 15 playoff games for the Avalanche last year. Even Marcus Johansson scored clutch goals against Toronto for us and had a really solid playoff performance for Boston when they had their Cup finals run in 2019. The Playoffs are small sample sizes and are played against only 1-4 different opponents, don't overreact to them when a normally productive player has a quiet stretch. Be more concerned about the players who don't produce who still don't produce in the playoffs.
They won't move Vrana at the TDL, you can't move a player like him if you're a Cup contender heading into the playoffs. They will move him in the offseason if they want to.
The absolute high end would be Nikolaj Ehler's deal. They can use that as a benchmark ("you aren't as good as Ehlers, you aren't going to get as much as he did"). So that sets 6x$6M as the upper bound. Guentzel's deal also reinforces that $6M upper bound (he got that after a 40G, 76P season).Fair enough but what would you pay him on a new contact?