Player Discussion Canucks Top Prospects 11-20

[SwaggyCanuckMZ]

Check out the second half of the prospect rankings! I give my take on who should take spots 11 through 20!

https://thehockeywriters.com/canucks-2019-20-top-prospects-11-through-20/

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[Peter10]

Cant wait too see how many more top 6 F and top 4 D we have there.

 

[M2Beezy]

Nice list, i like the top ten and how youve ranked them too, for the most part, not so hot on Juolevi or Lockwood, but the future def looks bright

 

[Pip]

We should call head amateur scout, Judd Brackett, the late-round whisperer as he has been the architect of many of the picks who have surprised us in recent years. Since he took over the scouting throne in 2015, the Vancouver Canucks have made 27 picks in the third round or later. Of those, there are at least 10 that could legitimately be projected as National Hockey League players. That’s a pretty good success rate for the later rounds.

Hard to take this seriously but nice try I guess

 

[SwaggyCanuckMZ]

Why is it hard to take seriously? Only time will tell, but I really think there are 10 players in the third round or later from the 2005 draft to now that could be NHL players. We will see if I'm right.

Hard to take this seriously but nice try I guess

 

[Bitz and Bites]

Palmu ahead of almost anybody is hard to take seriously.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Why is it hard to take seriously? Only time will tell, but I really think there are 10 players in the third round or later from the 2005 draft to now that could be NHL players. We will see if I'm right.

 

[Pip]

Prospect even remotely tracking well: Future top 4/ top 6 player

Player on track to busting: Be patient/ guaranteed bottom pair defenseman/ bottom 6 forward

 

[Hit the post]

Why is it hard to take seriously? Only time will tell, but I really think there are 10 players in the third round or later from the 2015 draft to now that could be NHL players.

You can't really legitimately project any player selected in the 2019 draft from the 3rd round (or worse) to be future NHLers at this point IMHO. That applies to ALL the other picks (not just the Canuck ones).

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Palmu ahead of almost anybody is hard to rake seriously.

Seriously? That's f***ing hilarious. Palmu was the worst player to suit up for the Comets last year by a country mile. There is zero chance he ever becomes a successful AHL player.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I can't wait for the third edition - prospects 21-30.

I wonder if it starts to tail off?

 

[Bitz and Bites]

I can't wait for the third edition - prospects 21-30.

I wonder if it starts to tail off?

There’s gotta be a few more impact players left in that range.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Seriously? That's ****ing hilarious. Palmu was the worst player to suit up for the Comets last year by a country mile. There is zero chance he ever becomes a successful AHL player.

I object. Zero is wrong. There is a low chance he will become a successful AHL player. But why? only use the Ahl path if you think you can actually make the NHL. Otherwise stay in europe.

Fair enough, his North America tour went south like sherman. However, he could end up having an NHL career. Better than "zero", probably more like 4 - 6 %.

I'll admit that going into the season I had hope he could be another St louis or Gaudreau or ... but it seems very unlikely now.

 

[Grub]

After more then 10 years of following prospects... maybe one of these guys will ever make it and play 10 games for us.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I object. Zero is wrong. There is a low chance he will become a successful AHL player. But why? only use the Ahl path if you think you can actually make the NHL. Otherwise stay in europe.

Fair enough, his North America tour went south like sherman. However, he could end up having an NHL career. Better than "zero", probably more like 4 - 6 %.

I'll admit that going into the season I had hope he could be another St louis or Gaudreau or ... but it seems very unlikely now.

I guess I just didn't see what you did Chilly. And I watched for it too. Patiently. But all I saw was a forlorn little fire hydrant that looked hopelessly out of his depth on every shift five on five; and only slightly less so on the pp where his only competency was standing still along the half wall boards passing the puck around the perimeter. He did look reasonably confident there, but nowhere else really.

I maintain that he was the worst player to suit up for the Comets last year, and some of those ECHL PTOs were plumb awful too, so that is saying something.

 

[ChilliBilly]

I guess I just didn't see what you did Chilly. And I watched for it too. Patiently. But all I saw was a forlorn little fire hydrant that looked hopelessly out of his depth on every shift five on five; and only slightly less so on the pp where his only competency was standing still along the half wall boards passing the puck around the perimeter. He did look reasonably confident there, but nowhere else really.

I maintain that he was the worst player to suit up for the Comets last year, and some of those ECHL PTOs were plumb awful too, so that is saying something.

fair enough. take him from 4 -6 to 2 - 3 %. Agreed almost no shot now. But zero is a mighty small number.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Another thing that's buggin' me is the way Jimbo keeps trading down and trading down into the depths of the sixth and seventh rounds where he picks nothin' but dwarfs and Ivy League scholars that have, well, zero chance of ever showing up on the radar down the road. I really don't know why he bothers with that.

 

[MS]

I object. Zero is wrong. There is a low chance he will become a successful AHL player. But why? only use the Ahl path if you think you can actually make the NHL. Otherwise stay in europe.

Fair enough, his North America tour went south like sherman. However, he could end up having an NHL career. Better than "zero", probably more like 4 - 6 %.

I'll admit that going into the season I had hope he could be another St louis or Gaudreau or ... but it seems very unlikely now.

Palmu is 5'6, can't skate, and was unable to compete in the AHL in his draft+4 season.

There is literally zero chance this player ever plays in the NHL. Like, you couldn't possibly get more of a no-hoper than this.

A guy like Gadjovich might have a 4-6% chance of playing in the NHL. Palmu is fully zero.

 

[Pip]

Palmu is 5'6, can't skate, and was unable to compete in the AHL in his draft+4 season.

There is literally zero chance this player ever plays in the NHL. Like, you couldn't possibly get more of a no-hoper than this.

A guy like Gadjovich might have a 4-6% chance of playing in the NHL. Palmu is fully zero.

It’s funny that people hold onto hope for the Palmu types but then have no problem writing off guys like Archibald and Gaunce who showed actual NHL ability.

 

[MS]

It’s funny that people hold onto hope for the Palmu types but then have no problem writing off guys like Archibald and Gaunce who showed actual NHL ability.

I'm actually incredulous about all these takes on Palmu right now.

He's heading into his draft+5 season. He would be the smallest player in the NHL. At an age where he'd need to be destroying the AHL to the tune of a 100-point pace to have any hope of projecting ... he wasn't able to compete at that level and basically showed himself to be ECHL-calibre.

Like, every single poster here has basically the identical chance of playing in the NHL to Palmu. He's beyond finished. There is zero hope. Anyone suggesting anything otherwise simply doesn't have a clue about prospect development.

 

[PG Canuck]

Why is it hard to take seriously? Only time will tell, but I really think there are 10 players in the third round or later from the 2005 draft to now that could be NHL players. We will see if I'm right.

Because that is beyond realistic. I'd be willing to bet, only 1 or 2 become of any significant help.

 

[PG Canuck]

After more then 10 years of following prospects... maybe one of these guys will ever make it and play 10 games for us.

No one ever seems to learn.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Because that is beyond realistic. I'd be willing to bet, only 1 or 2 become of any significant help.

I'd say Madden is the only third round or later draft pick that's looking like he might play for us one day.

 

[MS]

Why is it hard to take seriously? Only time will tell, but I really think there are 10 players in the third round or later from the 2005 draft to now that could be NHL players. We will see if I'm right.

There are about 10 guys who could currently be seen as prospects of some sort, with odds of actually sticking in the NHL ranging from 5% - 30%.

In the end, 1 or 2 will probably make it. If you think we will have 10 NHL players from rounds 3-7 of those drafts, you need to take some time to study and understand prospect development and chances of success.

 

[Javaman]

Check out the second half of the prospect rankings! I give my take on who should take spots 11 through 20!

https://thehockeywriters.com/canucks-2019-20-top-prospects-11-through-20/

Genuinely curious, do your rankings represent ceilings? Or what you feel is a realistic projection for each prospect?