SelltheTeamFrancesco
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Canucks should not be moving Gaudette especially for scraps. The guy is just snake bitten at this point and has a ton of potential.
Friedman: Canucks talking to Ducks about Virtanen
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Peter Griffin
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Manson’s value is nowhere near what it used to be, but then again, neither is Virtanen’s. Manson could be a guy Anaheim looks to move prior to the expansion draft though.
Sergei Shirokov
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I agree. I do wonder how much being drafted by Van magnified that, given its his hometown.
A trade could be a much needed wake up call, but he's also not a 'young' anymore.
Heinen for Virtanen would be the most Bob Murray trade Bob Murray has ever made.
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Heinen is a nothing player. I’d be fine with that change of scenery trade even if Virtanen’s upside is limited at this point.
McDonald19
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It‘s trending in that direction with two healthy scratches in a row, and a $2.8 million RFA qualifying offer.
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ItWasJustified
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Playing poorly and not living up the expectations usually do that for you.Man Virtanen has been in trade speculation for years now
Even if we assume their values dropped at a similar rate, Manson started a fair bit higher than Virtanen anyway, since their NHL debuts anyway.
But if it means we get a slightly better rate, sure. I just don't see Virtanen being the main piece for Manson value wise. And I like Virtanen.
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ATypicalCanadian
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Friedman update from Saturday Headlines:
Right now as it stands(8:50 PM EST Saturday night) he thinks it's more likely it doesn't happen than that it does. It comes quite simply down to salary next season for Virtanen.
Virtanen: 1.7M salary and then 3.4M next year
Heinen 2.8M salary and then RFA next year.
They've been trying all week and may try again, but at the moment they don't have a solution to match the salary going each way.
Right now as it stands(8:50 PM EST Saturday night) he thinks it's more likely it doesn't happen than that it does. It comes quite simply down to salary next season for Virtanen.
Virtanen: 1.7M salary and then 3.4M next year
Heinen 2.8M salary and then RFA next year.
They've been trying all week and may try again, but at the moment they don't have a solution to match the salary going each way.
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Trying to pry Manson away with Jake and another player would be in the Canucks best interest with no Edler, Hamonic or Benn next year and Manson is mean which the Canucks don't have plus he's on IR so Canucks have time before needing to make roster moves.
The Mighty Duck Man
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It's tough to see one, although, what kind of difference could they be talking about? If they want Virtanen for next year he would have to be paid something, maybe $3.4 is too rich but I wonder what the magic number would be.
Elliott said on after 40 minutes on Saturday that Heinen does not kill penalties. From the stats his production has declined from his 43 point rookie peak.
so it’s not really anything of value if he can’t bring much. What’s the upside here?
maybe it’s the cash in the way virtanen’s contract is structured. He gets like $1.7 this season and jumps to $3.4 next season. A whole $900k more than his cap hit next season.
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I don't get what the Ducks are doing but out of the three Cali teams, I think they have the best path to get back to being good. No real bad contracts.
Just doing understand why they traded Ritchie for Heinen and then try to get a guy that tries to play like Ritchie and fails? Virtanen is a bad hockey player. Heinen is an okay player.
Just doing understand why they traded Ritchie for Heinen and then try to get a guy that tries to play like Ritchie and fails? Virtanen is a bad hockey player. Heinen is an okay player.
