Rumor: Canucks offered 1st, 2nd, Sutter, Virtanen for OEL

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  1. WetcoastOrca Registered User

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    Schmidt was a steal that happens only once every few years. I don't think you can use that trade as a comparison for anything.
     
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    My point is that the Canucks were fully prepared to give up that much for a top defenseman and a cap dump. And they ended up getting that top defenseman for much much much less. It means they may still be prepared to give up that much more to dump a contract or two.
     
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    You used the Schmidt trade in your formula. I don't think it's relevant is my point.
     
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    Actually it fits all the media rumours going on prior to the deadline. All us Canucks fans assumed it had to be Eriksson as the dump but then a report came out that it was going to be Sutter. Then reports that it was being held up over a prospect, with Arizona really wanting Demko.

    Everything fits together well enough that this reported offer is likely accurate.
     
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    Schmidt joins Statsny, Johnsson, Murray, and Nutivaara. Savard close to joining them, and a whole bunch of players being bought out. Yes it's an outlier to other years but for this present off season and likely the next this is the formula.

    What you see with the Vancouver/Arizona talks is a GM pushing to complete a deal before the market is really set. Would be similar to last season with Buffalo jumping the gun and signing Skinner to that massive contract early, then July 1st hits and everyone else takes a huge step back from the crazy contracts.
     
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    Schmidt is a steroid cheat that Vegas didn't want to pay anymore. Let's call a spade a spade.
     
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    Marchessault too.
     
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    Excellent.

    I lol'd hard at that. Then giggled for a few more seconds to boot.
     
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    If that's true, can you explain why they signed him to his current contract after he was suspended for PED use?
     
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    bad benning..glad arizona said no to that
     
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    Now this is the kind of spicy take that keeps me coming back to this site.
     
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    Really? Can't figure that one out on your own? :rolleyes:
     
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    Are you actually saying anything, on any level?
     
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    Obviously they signed him because he was the best option. Are you saying anything? He's a steroid cheat. Once a cheat, always a cheat. They shipped him out of town for peanuts as soon as they could.
     
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    You seem to be arguing that Vegas wanted to be rid of Schmidt for reasons other than having to fit in Pietranglo's salary but you've offered no argument for why this is true and it contradicts everything that is known about how the trade happened, Schmidt's relationship with the team prior to the trade, and his on-ice impact on the team's success.
     
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    Thank the heavens that deal didn't go through. Schmidt is currently the better defenseman and those assets can now be used for something more valuable, like clearing cap space.
     
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    That’s a lot for an albatross.
     
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    If they loved Schmidt so much they would've made the cap work other ways. Don't take it so personal. It's not your fault the guy is a disgrace.
     
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    I'm not taking anything personally. I've seen you post here and there, you're a fairly recognizable long-time poster, and I was surprised enough to see you trolling that I wanted to be sure that's what you were doing.
     
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    Just don't dig guys that roid is all.
     
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    Who else could they have traded to clear enough cap space that wouldnt have cost them assets to move? Nobody was going to take Fleury without a sweetener, apparently they tried to trade Pac at the draft and they had already traded Stastny for a very weak return. Trading any other combo of players would have left holes to fill with no money to do so
     
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    That's a crap offer for OEL the player but it's very fair for OEL's contract. I don't know what Arizona expects to return considering the insane amount of money left on that deal.
     
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    I saw some people discounting Brandon Sutter as having value, so I want to give my opinion about Sutter. He obviously doesn't hold the value he did when he was younger. And by fans, he isn't coveted, he isn't exciting in any way. But he is exactly the kind of guy coaches love. Defensive centre, plays the right way, can take the tough matchups, he's 6'3, a RHS, leader in the locker room, and versatile - he can play centre or wing. And he pots a pretty consistent 15-20 goal pace, pretty much every year. Like he's not gonna get a 1st round pick back, but on a 1 year contract, at a very solid cap hit, I would be willing to bet that he has value around the league. (I don't think the Canucks are trying to trade him either... they shouldn't be, as there are several other players who are actually wasting cap space, IE. Ferland, Beagle, Baertschi and especially Louie).
     
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    Maybe...but he didn’t and even if he did...those teams would be stupid.
     
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    Rather just keep him and move him at the deadline - he’ll definitely have value.
     

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