They'd have to give away Sutter and Virtanen obviously etc, but in theory getting Smhidt and OEL makes them a perennial playoff team
Rumor: Canucks offered 1st, 2nd, Sutter, Virtanen for OEL
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If Vegas had to get rid of Schmidt, a top pairing D, for a 3rd round pick, to move 8m~ worth of cap space to sign Pietrangelo, what makes you think the Canucks could move Ferland, Eriksson, Roussell or Beagle without including an additional 1st round pick each to move Eriksson and Ferland? OEL isn't worth 3 1sts, a 2nd, and Virtanen.
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that is a huge offer and terrible for the Canucks. Arizona should have taken it and thanked the Canucks.
I wouldn't have minded OEL on this team. I feel he would rebound, not as a slight against Arizona, but with Edler, Hughes, Myers and, presumably, Schmidt insulating him. I'm glad we didn't get him at the price stated, mostly due to contract concerns.
For those of you stating the Canucks should have hoped Arizona took this, then we trade for Schmidt too, even with Ferland on LTIR, Baertschi and Eriksson in the minors and making the assumption that players like Hoglander and/or Rathbone are ready to take the plunge, we have 20 players on the roster and just over 2 million in cap space, not counting our 1.7 million for last years bonuses. It simply doesn't work without drastic cap dumps, which....will add to the 3 picks we've already surrendered in this scenario, and two we spent out last year for Miller and Toffoli.
Our forwards look like this, at best, too:
Lotto line
Pearson-Horvat-Hoglander(his off side)?/Lind/Lockwood
Roussel-Gaudette-Motte
Hawryluk-Beagle-MacEwen
Eriksson, Baertschi as call ups if LTIR is used.
That's atrocious. That's worse then our D was the last few years.
For those of you stating the Canucks should have hoped Arizona took this, then we trade for Schmidt too, even with Ferland on LTIR, Baertschi and Eriksson in the minors and making the assumption that players like Hoglander and/or Rathbone are ready to take the plunge, we have 20 players on the roster and just over 2 million in cap space, not counting our 1.7 million for last years bonuses. It simply doesn't work without drastic cap dumps, which....will add to the 3 picks we've already surrendered in this scenario, and two we spent out last year for Miller and Toffoli.
Our forwards look like this, at best, too:
Lotto line
Pearson-Horvat-Hoglander(his off side)?/Lind/Lockwood
Roussel-Gaudette-Motte
Hawryluk-Beagle-MacEwen
Eriksson, Baertschi as call ups if LTIR is used.
That's atrocious. That's worse then our D was the last few years.
rt
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Sutter is essentially a negative 2nd. So you think Jake Virtanen and next year’s first is irresistible for Arizona’s #1D, best player, and captain in his prime? It’s an easy offer for Arizona to pass up.
But Vancouver did well by getting their guy for a 3rd. Both sides are better off.
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Nate Schmidt is a better hockey player than OEL. Canucks lucked out on that one.
rt
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I think the fundamental point should be here that this wasn't two fan bases arguing about trade value between players. Regardless of what Arizona fans think it's the Coyotes who decided they wanted to try and trade OEL, and he utilized his NTC to say only Vancouver and Boston. Under those circumstances, and Vancouver fans have recent enough experience with this through Ryan Kesler and Roberto Luongo, what Benning offered was fairly standard with a lean towards the generous side. With the teams current cap crunch this season and next, it was blame dumb to not ensure Eriksson was the dump. Under all the additional circumstances this off season, Benning's offer was insanity.
Don't forget Boston made an offer too, better assets to trade plus with Krug on his way out actually having the cap space to add him, and they offered less than Vancouver. Considering there never really even seemed to be much discussion probably a lot less.
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Thank goodness they did
That contract is set to star in the next big horror movie franchise
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Well I mean if it’s good for the goose-stepper...
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If Vancouver was smart they would have given that bevy of assets up to get Quinn Hughes right hand partner
A neutral zone, stay at home ace with some size.
Not a guy to play behind him on the left side.
A neutral zone, stay at home ace with some size.
Not a guy to play behind him on the left side.
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Not really much in the offer. Next draft is suppose to be weak and Vancouver likely drafting late. Sutter is cap dump and Virtanen bottom 6 winger
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because they had the negotiating leverage in this particular transaction being down to the only team oel is willing to move too because Boston backed out with even a smaller offer then what Vancouver has to offer.
now Arizona will not even get as much as what we offered.
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they tried but failed. Part of that and no cap room, but they did try with attempts at vatanen, hamonic, and schenn.
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