Rumor: Canucks Interested in Nico Sturm (C, Clarkson)

[bossram]

Brad Richardson had 3 goal all of last year. He would be a great guy to have in the locker room as well. No I don’t know Gaudette personally but I do know a lot. My profile pic is me and Sam Reinhart and another bud that plays D1. I, myself have played D1 college as well, so i do understand the value of having someone like Beags on the team.

And Beagle also has 3 goals...at 3 times the price. I'm not even disputing that there is value to leadership/character. I'm asking, how much value does it have? Is it worth paying a guy 3 times what he's worth and tacking extra years onto his contract? I wouldn't say so.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

Gaunce isn’t the only example you can use as a comparable. There are almost always a fair amount of decent 4th line centres that are signed for cheap in free agency. Anything over $1.5 mill is overpayment by virtue of what the rest of the market sees.

Again that’s what other have been saying on this board. Should’ve used Gaunce instead. I’m not a huge fan of the contract myself but that’s what it took to land Beagle because he is a winner and knows what it take to win. Also just came off of a championship run. Always one of the better face off centres. Especially when our team does make the playoffs hopefully within the next few years. The younger guys will look to Beags.

 

[bossram]

Richardson + Brodziak

And Riley Sheahan, Riley Nash, former Canuck Nic Dowd has acquitted himself nicely with the Caps...Brendan Gaunce could just do the job too.

There's just no need to vastly overpay a 4th line center.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

Just because other teams' GMs are doing stupid things doesn't mean Jim gets a pass for doing it too. That goes double for a team that should be rebuilding and trying to avoid bad contracts that just get worse and worse as you run into the competitive phase. The Canucks are going to have $9m tied up in geriatric declining Eriksson and Beagle when they are trying to compete again, it was incredible obvious the whole time and yet they still went out and signed those daft contracts.

I don’t agree with Eriksson signing but I don’t mind the Beagle signing. He offers more than what the fans and media sees within that locker room.

 

[bossram]

Again that’s what other have been saying on this board. Should’ve used Gaunce instead. I’m not a huge fan of the contract myself but that’s what it took to land Beagle because he is a winner and knows what it take to win. Also just came off of a championship run. Always one of the better face off centres. Especially when our team does make the playoffs hopefully within the next few years. The younger guys will look to Beags.

If that's what it takes...then you just don't sign him. He's bringing value to the team much lower than his pay grade. It's not worth it. And if he was so integral to a championship calibre team...why did the Caps just let him go?

 

[Addison Rae]

Brad Richardson won a cup and is much better at ice hockey, but yeah locker room right.

Jay Beagle the winner has our team at 25th in the league this year, wow!

 

[VasilyHoglander]

And Beagle also has 3 goals...at 3 times the price. I'm not even disputing that there is value to leadership/character. I'm asking, how much value does it have? Is it worth paying a guy 3 times what he's worth and tacking extra years onto his contract? I wouldn't say so.

A lot, ideally it should of been a 3 year deal but the 4th obviously one of the main reason why we landed him. Personally I believe if we make the playoffs within the time frame of his contract, his signing is a success. He can really show our younger players what playoff hockey is about. Other than Bo’s first year, none of our young players have playoff experience.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

If that's what it takes...then you just don't sign him. He's bringing value to the team much lower than his pay grade. It's not worth it. And if he was so integral to a championship calibre team...why did the Caps just let him go?

They wanted to sign him but they had to pay Carlson. Trotz really pushed for him to get him to Long Island. Coming from a Coach who just won the Cup shows how much Beags is valued

 

[Melvin]

Total beast? Bo himself said he’s glad Beagle is coming back so he doesn’t have to take as many D face offs. Beagle brings a lot more, experience and younger guys can learn from Beags. If you’ve played any level College or higher you would understand. I remember my freshmen year, senior players really helped me in a lot of ways especially ones that have been there for longer.

You're really grasping at straws now.

I love how you just keep shifting your argument. Face it, your "Beagle is important so Petey can have zone starts" is nonsense.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Again that’s what other have been saying on this board. Should’ve used Gaunce instead. I’m not a huge fan of the contract myself but that’s what it took to land Beagle because he is a winner and knows what it take to win. Also just came off of a championship run. Always one of the better face off centres. Especially when our team does make the playoffs hopefully within the next few years. The younger guys will look to Beags.

This reasoning isn't great. Otherwise we should have pursued Andrew Desjardins or Bickell since they won a Cup in 2015. The train of thought that X player on Cup team = valuable is ridiculous and an untenable position to argue.

 

[Melvin]

Notice the play here. Keep on shifting your argument until you get it to a place where it is entirely nonfalsifiable.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

So...Sturm?

Anyone here ever see him play?

 

[VasilyHoglander]

You're really grasping at straws now.

I love how you just keep shifting your argument. Face it, your "Beagle is important so Petey can have zone starts" is nonsense.

Like I stated before, you often see Beagle out there taking face offs for Gaudette and even Pettersson line. Do you not watch the games?

 

[VasilyHoglander]

This reasoning isn't great. Otherwise we should have pursued Andrew Desjardins or Bickell since they won a Cup in 2015. The train of thought that X player on Cup team = valuable is ridiculous and an untenable position to argue.

I’m not talking about the DSPs. Those aren’t consistent players like Beags

 

[Tim Calhoun]

Wow. Marco was only 16 when Nico was born. Guy was one horny teenager.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

Notice the play here. Keep on shifting your argument until you get it to a place where it is entirely nonfalsifiable.

My “arguement” still stands. He’s important piece of the team because of what he brings to the team on and off the ice in the locker room. People that have never played past Midget would understand.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

My “arguement” still stands. He’s important piece of the team because of what he brings to the team on and off the ice in the locker room. People that have never played past Midget would understand.

Wouldn’t

 

[Blue and Green]

"Nico Sturm"

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Hmm let's see, play with the best German born player in NHL history or play for the team whose fans shat all over your dad when he was playing injured. Tough call...

He’s not his dad

 

[member 290103]

Brad Richardson won a cup and is much better at ice hockey, but yeah locker room right.

Jay Beagle the winner has our team at 25th in the league this year, wow!

Beagle has been a terrible signing. No two ways about it.

 

[Zippgunn]

Uh, Marco Sturm isn't his dad, but alright.

Is he any relation?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Just because other teams' GMs are doing stupid things doesn't mean Jim gets a pass for doing it too. That goes double for a team that should be rebuilding and trying to avoid bad contracts that just get worse and worse as you run into the competitive phase. The Canucks are going to have $9m tied up in geriatric declining Eriksson and Beagle when they are trying to compete again, it was incredible obvious the whole time and yet they still went out and signed those daft contracts.

Looks like the Canucks might buy out Eriksson after July 1st.

 

[clunk]

Is he any relation?

Not that I'm aware of. Doesn't look like it.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Is he any relation?

Nope, not that I know of.

 

[VasilyHoglander]

Beagle has been a terrible signing. No two ways about it.

In your opinion.