Verviticus
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it is not. less than 20%
where did you get this information? the number sounds right but I can't actually find anything published on the matter
it is not. less than 20%
I am working on his highlight video as well and again i've noticed the same concerns with his defensive game as I had prior to the draft. I am taking the optimistic approach with Subban, but i think we have to be aware of how much work he needs in his all around game to make it.Further, that highlight package showed exactly one defensive play, a sweep check on a charging forward. It didn't show any hits, and down-low containment or takeaways, which are integral elements to defense in today's NHL.
If he can grow another 2 inches or so, he will be on the gravy train. As it stands right now, he doesn't suit today's NHL defensive game. He is like a Coffey-type; an offensive d-man from a bygone era. Hell, even Erik Karlsson, who is considered "small" by defenseman standards, is 6'0, 180. I DO like that the kid seems to be okay with fighting, though.
I am working on his highlight video as well and again i've noticed the same concerns with his defensive game as I had prior to the draft. I am taking the optimistic approach with Subban, but i think we have to be aware of how much work he needs in his all around game to make it.
Jordan is not a physical defender and at times, i really question his ability to read the play defensively. Most of the highlight reel rushes against Belleville are the result of Jordan's carelessness with the puck and his turnovers. I'd say if he was of legal age, he'd have to buy Malcolm and Graham several cases of beers for the times they have bailed him out or the times he left them out to dry. There were a few times when he got back in time to face two on ones, he does not seem to play the pass or shot. At times, he just stands in front of the net watching players jam away and if he does initiate contact, he does not have the strength or size to box out the larger forwards in the OHL.
Finished the Subban Highlight video; disclaimer, no defensive plays included.
I am working on his highlight video as well and again i've noticed the same concerns with his defensive game as I had prior to the draft. I am taking the optimistic approach with Subban, but i think we have to be aware of how much work he needs in his all around game to make it.
Jordan is not a physical defender and at times, i really question his ability to read the play defensively. Most of the highlight reel rushes against Belleville are the result of Jordan's carelessness with the puck and his turnovers. I'd say if he was of legal age, he'd have to buy Malcolm and Graham several cases of beers for the times they have bailed him out or the times he left them out to dry. There were a few times when he got back in time to face two on ones, he does not seem to play the pass or shot. At times, he just stands in front of the net watching players jam away and if he does initiate contact, he does not have the strength or size to box out the larger forwards in the OHL.
Finished the Subban Highlight video; disclaimer, no defensive plays included.
Just a reminder that Subban was a 4th round pick. There are going to be flaws to his game. If he was PK we wouldn't be getting him in the 4th round.
Finished the Subban Highlight video; disclaimer, no defensive plays included.
Finished the Subban Highlight video; disclaimer, no defensive plays included.
Just a reminder that Subban was a 4th round pick. There are going to be flaws to his game. If he was PK we wouldn't be getting him in the 4th round.
JS could be the steal of the draft
When PK was drafted in 2007, 43rd overall in the Second round
He was 5'10" and 180lbs or so
Now at 24, PK's listed at 6'0 and 206, so some growing went on
Jordan is 5'9" and 175lbs so spurt he most likely will
If Jordan was 6'0", he would of went in the first round already
Alright so I have heard alot about this guy was he drafted later because he was a defenseman? or is he not as good as PK Subban and will take time to develop? Will this guy be a Norris trophy one day?
Alright so I have heard alot about this guy was he drafted later because he was a defenseman? or is he not as good as PK Subban and will take time to develop? Will this guy be a Norris trophy one day?
no he is a human not a trophy
I should have said Norris trophy candidate.
EDIT: My guess is he is ready in the next 2 years.
That's definitely a stretch. What makes you think that? He's still very much a project player.
It is nice discussing semantics with you. My original statement was 'it is very unlikely'
When there are 2 possible outcomes, 1 being greater than 80 percent to happen, that outcome becomes likely, the other option becomes unlikely.
I shouldn't really need to go into this much detail, you are obviously trolling me here. I am done with this conversation.