Rumor: Canucks and Bruins Trade Talks

[wintersej]

This is such nonsense. You act like Debrusk is a lock for 25-30 goals and Virtanen is lucky to get 20. Debrusk has gotten over 20 goals in a season once. He had one more goal than Virtanen this past year. Not to mention Debrusk got consistent top 6 time and Virtanen played with Gaudette or Sutter as his center. They're extremely close in value.

Then so are DeBrusk and Boeser. I guess that means that Virtanen and Boeser are similar in value by your logic?

 

[Langdon Alger]

Eriksson back to Boston would be kind of funny I guess.

 

[Szechwan]

How is Zboril coming along? I could see something around him and Virtanen happening.

I would also be curious about this if anyone can step away from clutching their pearls over dumb proposals.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

I see. The guy with 62 goals and 120 points in 203 games is basically the same as the one with 50 and 90 in 279. That’s not a ridiculous statement at all.

I guess I would then venture that the guy with 50 goals in 203 games is basically the same as the one with 75 in 197 named Brock.

Virtanen is essentially a 20 goal scorer. And I bet a fresh start would do him good. Think there’s still a bit more untapped potential. A good middle 6 winger with size and speed.

debrusk > Virtanen (but not by a large amount). The last 3 seasons their point production is fairly comparable.

 

[Fastasaurus]

Virtanen Juolevi Gadvovich and 2021 5th for Carlo and 2020 4th

Pass. not even close.

 

[Nucker101]

This has Virtanen written all over it.

Bruins would probably be a better fit for him too

 

[thefutures]

Virtanen for an elc defender and a mid round pick. That's about as cheap as he's going to get.

 

[PB37]

Rask + DeBrusk for Boeser + Eriksson

This is awful. Rask is getting older but he's still an elite goaltender. He was a Conn Smythe shoe into going into G7 last year and runner up for the Vezina this year. Boeser is better than DeBrusk but the gulf between Eriksson and Rask is massive.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Benning pocket dialled Sweeney. Sweeney missed the call

Sweeney called Benning back but got VM. Left a message saying returning call.

Benning calls Sweeney back but gets a text saying he’s on a call and will call him back later.

Sweeney calls Benning back. Benning answers and apologizes for pocket dialling. Wasn’t trying to call him.

#tradetalks

 

[PB37]

I think Boston is interested more in someone like Adam Gaudette than Virtanen especially if they are looking for more scoring.

hometown boy, beanpot legend, Right shot Centre/Wing with goal scoring ability.

Gaudette is pure Boston too, he has a huge sleeve Tatty of Boston landmarks on his arm.

This guy is more Boston than the next Ben Afleck movie.


Gaudfather loves playing in that building !!

I like Gaudette a lot actually. However, I'm not sure there's room for him unless it's to play on the wing, which honestly I prefer him to be as a player. In Boston, Coyle and Kuraly are the mainstays for the two bottom six center positions. I guess Kuraly could switch to LW and Guadette center, but Kuraly is more effective at center and he's a much better faceoff guy than Gaudette.

The big catch in my eyes is Boeser but I can't see any way for Boston to make that work without giving up things they most likely don't want to give up. IF the plan is to trade Carlo and still compete with the core they have, they would to sign Pietrangelo first, which I'm not confident in seeing them make a 8-9 million dollar splash signing after the state of the monetary world this year. If they don't sign him, then they just created a giant sized crater hole on the right side of that 2nd pairing. There's a reason why good right shot RD's have a lot of value in the league.

Anders Bjork is on a pretty cheap, show me what you got contract for the next three seasons. 24 years old, skates hard, has puck hound mentality, good shot, lots of untapped potential. His contract and ability would be attractive to Vancouver and while a Bjork for Gaudette trade is fairly even, it doesn't help Vancouver's cap problems.

I like the sound of a Virtanen/Gaudette for Bjork/Grz swap on value alone, but I don't think Vancouver is looking for left side D.

I think there's some basis for the two clubs to help each other out, but I think there's a lot of sliding scales here.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

As a neutral fan:

Virtanen for Urho Vaakanainen+a 2nd round pick

 

[easton117]

It's extreme I know. But everything is possible. Krug is most likely gone and core is not getting any younger (+ losing Rask will be really really bad).

Normally I’d agree with you but they couldn’t have picked a better offseason to go goalie shopping if they chose to do so.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Boeser>>DeBrusk. Eriksson has an extra year over Rask on his contract so that evens it up a bit, Bruins add a little to this and it’s a fair deal.

Boeser’s not getting moved though. It’ll have to be a deal around Virtanen.

Uhhh... Rask is also a top 5 goalie on the world? He's not some cap dump.

 

[maxbme]

Rask + DeBrusk for Boeser + Eriksson

This is one of the most insane proposals I've ever seen.

Boeser isn't worth rask and debrusk and the negative value of Loui. Bruins aren't bringing Loui back now that he's worse and more expensive than he was when he disappointed here.

Does Vancouver really need an upgrade at goalie? I don't get it on any level

 

[Oates2Neely]

Kase = Virtanen. Boeser owed 7m qualifying offer soon. I don’t think Bruins have interest in anything Vancouver has to offer. I call BS on these “rumors”

Vancouver has solid young pieces. Keep building. Benning would love to dump some cap I’m sure but unfortunately covid happened. Ride it out Jim

 

[Coach Parker]

I would expect that too. The B’s might see Virtanen as a great fit in their rink and system. He’s big, fast, hits like a truck, and has a great shot. He’s just (imo - hockey wise) dumb as a stump.

Sounds like some of the guys the Bruins have put with Marchand and Bergeron to develop and teach about a complete game.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I would also be curious about this if anyone can step away from clutching their pearls over dumb proposals.

tools, inconsistent toolbox so far, but by all accounts took big steps this year in that regard. maybe LD version of Virtanen based on draft expectations. expected to fight for roster spot this year with Lauzon, Vaak who are all in the NHL ready/near ready boat. I think one of these guys for Virtanen and whatever adds needed to balance the value is most likely fit if Benning wants to deal him.

 

[Coach Parker]

What would it cost to get both Jake + Carlo in a package from Boston?
Eh Boston fans

I'd say Boeser + Demko and the Canucks get Halak as well on the cheap to back-up Markstrom.

 

[Coach Parker]

What would it cost to get both Jake + Carlo in a package from Boston?
Eh Boston fans

Then the second line is 'Bo and the Two Jakes'
OR
The ' B J's Line'. Damn fast 2nd line that's for sure.

 

[Coach Parker]

It's Virtanen, Eriksson and a pick for Carlo and ritchie.

YOu meant Boeser. Happens.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

It's going to be Eriksson

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I'd say Boeser + Demko and the Canucks get Halak as well on the cheap to back-up Markstrom.

who plays RD for the Bruins if Carlo is moved and are you making Boeser the highest paid player on the team when his contract is up? I dont see any Boeser trade for the Bruins for what we would give up

 

[FreeMcdavid]

Sounds like some of the guys the Bruins have put with Marchand and Bergeron to develop and teach about a complete game.

Virtanen is soo disappointing in a sense that he has all the tools to be dominant.

To me he's just an immature boy still:

1. coming to multiple training camps out of shape
2. partying with the likes of Bieber
3. partying and clubbing during the pandemic and posting it on social media

He is probably the fastest skater on the Canucks and he is a load to handle because he is built like a mack truck.

He has a very good wrist shot

He can really lay the body when he wants to.

The problem is inconsistency and immaturity.

If he puts it all together then it will be a robbery for anyone that takes a gamble and pulls him out of Vancouver.

Getting out of his hometown might be the best thing needed for his career so that he can fully learn how to be on his own and be a professional.

 

[Just Linda]

That's understandable. And if you were the Canucks, would you say yes?

Good question. Right now, I feel I wouldnt but if what's his pickle leaves I'd be hard pressed to say no.

Not sure tbh. I'd have to think really hard.

 

[Coach Parker]

How is Zboril coming along? I could see something around him and Virtanen happening.

He's NHL ready. Problem is that Krug and Chara are on the way out...