tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Yeah, tonnes of hockey fans hate seeing the best players in the world.
Be as sarcastic as you want, but these people do exist.
Hockey fan =/= wants to see any NHL game possible
Yeah, tonnes of hockey fans hate seeing the best players in the world.
Be as sarcastic as you want, but these people do exist.
Hockey fan =/= wants to see any NHL game possible
Because you aren't paying 500 bucks to see a game? Because they're the best players of your favourite sport?
See above: I've paid to see two teams I have no rooting interest in. That didn't make the hockey any less exciting. I don't see how you can call yourself a hockey fan and then turn down paying AHL prices to watch NHL players.
Yeah, tonnes of hockey fans hate seeing the best players in the world.
I'd call it a poor strategy if IA needs to rely on Canadian visitors to keep the team afloat... in fact, there is a growing wave of people avoiding buying tickets for said reasons.
I always tell people, you want another team in Southern Ontario ? stop buying Sabres tickets and force Buffalo to support their own team or face the consequences. If the team moves, it will be to either SO or open up the area for another team. You are just playing into the NHL's hand otherwise. same for Phoenix, I hope Canadians boycott buying tickets. Let them support their own team or move it to greener pastures...
i dont think its at all unreasonable for IA to want to market the product to people in the area already familiar with it. that would be kinda like saying someone who opens an italian bakery shouldn't make an effort to sell bread to italian immigrants. personally, if i were IA, i'd go out of my way to attract snowbirds.
You haven't heard? The Southern Strategy failed!
And there's also plenty of material on this thread's subject in the thread that's 95% less Phoenix (which is presumably why no one looked there before creating its own thread, right? )
Sure 40 minutes is a long drive, but to see an NHL hockey game, that's nothing!
Jobing.com is nicer than most of if not all of the arenas in Canada...
Basically, what is holding the Canadians living in and around the Valley from going to see Coyotes hockey games...
I've read online around 50-90 thousand Canadians live in Arizona during the winter or year round, and assume a big chunk of them end up in Phoenix.
I'll play along despite your faulty premise...
Let's assume for a moment that those 50,000-90,000 Canadians are "just like normal Canadians", even though they probably aren't.
Here's a list of Canadian census areas with a population around 90,000: Kamloops, Nanaimo, Fredericton, Belleville, St-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Chilliwack, Red Deer, Sarnia, Drummondville, Prince George.
Which of these Canadian cities could support an NHL team?
My point is stupid but it's still the answer to your question -- IA does not cater to Canadian snowbirds because they are not the key to the Coyotes' financial success. They don't even begin to make a dent in the bottom line. If the Coyotes ever become a success, they need Americans to fill the arena.
but if the phoenix coyotes held some sort of promotional night to attract that fat farmer away from his lazyboy, he might be tempted to go. worth a shot, non? i mean, its not like he would need the puck to be highlighted or have offside explained to him to enjoy the product on the ice.A retired 60 year old farmer that sold his land in Saskatchewan for his new Motorhome is probably happy sitting in his lazyboy and watching the Leafs or Canadiens on Satellite TV in HD on a 65 inch Big screen than driving to Glendale..
I think where this analogy fails is that immigrants come to this country and they (or more likely their descendants) eventually assimilate. Snowbirds are generally retirees who are set in their ways and have longstanding loyalties to home.
On that note, does the 'snowbirds' term generally apply to people who permanently relocate to the south or to those who spend the winter there (a lot of retirees around here only go to Florida for the winter)?
I agree with your overall point though - they might as well try to market to the snowbirds. Just would not be wise to bet too many chips on it.
People are discussing it because there are serious issues with this team. Why can't they be allowed to discuss it? because it hurts your feels? This entire message board can't be the Coyotes fans' safe space.
The franchise was dumped in Phoenix because Minneapolis fell through and they couldn't stay in Winnipeg.
...and planning on spending a total of 9 years of your life harping on it seems a foolish way to spend your life, but knock yourselves out if you want. If they leave after 22 years, it will be sad for those of us who cared, but I'll be in my mid 50s by then and thankful I got the chance.Fact is that the Coyotes traditionally draw horribly in teh early part of the season. They draw better after Christmas when there are more snow birds around. Simple ownership change was never going to be able to suddenly fill the buildign which was never full before.
I don't think anyone here is surprised that the Coyotes are drawing so poorly. One would assume the ownership group wouldn't be surprised either. Can they turn it around? I haven't the slightest clue, but a month into the season is certainly too early to be judging it.
Bingo. "I'm here in Phoenix, and I'd go to an NHL game, but I'm not gonna because maybe if I don't they'll move to Canada"...seems pretty silly.Saying Canadian fans should boycott the team (like one poster suggested earlier) is absolutely ridiculous.
People are discussing it because there are serious issues with this team. Why can't they be allowed to discuss it? because it hurts your feels? This entire message board can't be the Coyotes fans' safe space.
I know peps that spend a lot of time ( retired ) down there. The reason they are there is to get away from anything to do with snow, ice ( unless its in your drink ), and cold. They are not and never will be Coyotes fans, yet they will attend a game when Detroit is in town.
Why is this so hard for people in Glendale / Phoenix, the new owners , or the NHL, to understand?
This is no different than expecting someone living in western Canada, who all of the sudden gets transferred to Toronto because of their job, to become a Leafs fan when they have spent their entire lives laughing at and hating the Leafs. It's not going to happen!
I sit beside two die-hard fans of the home team. Jets fans all they way. Except when Montreal comes to town. Then the Hab jerseys come out and they are cheering for the Jets to lose. Two games from now, I will be sitting there cheering for the Jets, while my son will be sitting beside me fully decked out in Detroit gear.
People just won't give up their loyalties.