Canadian WJC team

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  1. db23

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    Camp coming up in mid August in Calgary. 12 retrunees, most if not all will make the team, so that leaves room for about the same number fo newcomers. Any ideas?

    It looks like they will add 2 new goalkeepers, 4 or 5 defencemen, and 5 or 6 forwards.
     
  2. Riggins

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    Can someone hook up the list of invitees to the camp?
     
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    They won't be adding 4 or 5 new D-men if everyone returns from last year. If there is no NHL season, Dion Phaneuf, Brent Seabrook, Braydon Coburn and Shawn Belle will all return. Expect Shea Weber, Cam Barker and Mike Green to round out the D for Canada at the 2005 World Juniors in North Dakota. It will more than likely be the first time all seven D-men have come from the WHL.

    If there is an NHL season, don't expect Phaneuf or Coburn to be available for Canada. Up front, Stewart, Getzlaf and Carter could all be in the NHL if there is a season. Anthony Stewart is the most likely of the three.
     
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    It's way too early to be even thinking of predicting what the team will look like. Just because of the threat of a lockout and the possibility of so many players being able to play for the team. Factor in injuries and play during the season and things can change in a hurry. Based on the roster of invitees set out right now, my best guess would be:

    Goalies:
    Devan Dubnyk
    David Shantz

    Defence:
    Dion Phaneuf
    Braydon Coburn
    Brent Seabrook
    Shawn Belle
    Cam Barker
    Shea Weber
    Mike Green

    Forwards:
    Sidney Crosby
    Jeff Carter
    Ryan Getzlaf
    Mike Richards
    Nigel Dawes
    Jeremy Colliton
    Anthony Stewart
    Andrew Ladd
    Dave Bolland
    Stephen Dixon - although I could see him being left off the team
    Dany Roussin - a running mate for Crosby could be very likely
    Kyle Chipchura - see him playing on the checking line with Bolland and Colliton
    Gilbert Brule - I think he'll be added by the time the evaluation camp comes around just for the experience of the tournament.

    With the group of forwards they have assembled, I could see any number of combinations end up making the team.

    Every year there is a surprise or two and this year will be no different. I couldn't come up with who I thought would be a surprise pick, but I know there will be a few.
     
  6. db23

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    I'm assuming there will be NHL hockey by January of next year. So it is quite possible that only 2 of last year's defencemen will return. That would leave 5 vacancies. Up front there are 8 returning forwards, of whom 2 might reasonably be unavailable. That would leave another 5 vacancies up front. Top forward candidates would likely include the top draftees from this summer - Ladd, Picard, Chipchura, Wolski, and Bolland.
     
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    What about Bernier, Pouliot, Fehr, Stone? Those are pretty talented players to leave off the list.
     
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    I dont think Canada will put a player specially for Crosby.

    There are better players like Steve Bernier that can offer more to the table like size and physical play without offensive dropoff.

    Not saying that Roussin doesnt deserve it but he should not be chosen just to play with Crosby
     
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    I would say that some forwards should be dropped in favor of some more offense:
    Bernier, Roussin,Pouliot,and Patrice Bergeron should all be added up IMHO.
    WE witnessed in 2 consecultive finals the lack of Canadian offense and imaginative play in favor of more grinding players and a defensive system.
    It brought us to silver lining.
    Time for gold with some more offensive punch.
     
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    Gilbert Brulé doesnt deserve to be there at 17... a guy like Pouliot or Bernier desrve it
     
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    I think MA "emergency room" Pouliot needs to prove he can play 20 games without getting hurt first.
     
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    There seem to be some awful strong opinions here but nothing to back them up.

    1. Brule doesn't deserve to be there at 17. Why not? Canada has a history of bringing along 17 year olds so that they gain the experience. Brule is every bit as talented as some of the guys being mentioned. If he's a 13th forward, why not?

    2. So you don't think Canada would bring along a player that would fit on a line perfectly with one it's go to guys? That's some pretty sound thinking there. Anyone who watched Roussin play this year saw that he can put the points up without Crosby. He is a very talented player and deserves to be on the team. To me it makes complete sense to put a guy on the team that can play alongside Crosby. That was part of the problem last year, there was no one he could play with and click.

    3. A lack of offence? You must have been watching a different tournament than most of us. Canada had some of the most creative and offensively impressive play in the tournament. They never lost because of a lack of offensive, they lost because of a couple of bad bounces.

    4. What about Bernier, Pouliot, Fehr, and Stone? Bernier is an overweight, replaceable element. There are plenty of players that can offer what he brings to the table. I'm not a Bernier fan at all. Pouliot is too injured for my liking. He has some talent but he never brings it enough because he's always hurt. Stone is not an element that Canada needs. They have plenty of offence to go around and some physical play as well. As for Fehr, it's a matter of numbers. He's a great player and one of the last I took of the team. I just felt that he lost out because of the numbers game, not playing ability.

    Like I said, every year people have issues with the team that is selected. No matter what happens, people will criticize it unless the team brings home gold.
     
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    Im not against Roussen being on the team at all, as he is a talented player and would complement Crosby well. But Pouliot is the much more talented player and he brings much more to the table.
    idealy they'd have the Pouliot-Crosby-Roussen line that formed from time to time for the Oceanic last year. That line would be amazing to watch.
    As for Brule- I personaly think he has more then enough talent to make this team. He lead the U-17 tournament in scoring and I beleive he will have a repeat performance at the U-18 this summer. I see him leading all scorers in this tournament by a wide margin.
     
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    The players in bold are the ones that Fehr definitely should be ahead of in line to get on the team.
     
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    nigel dawes led team canada in scoring this year in the WJC, so how does he become one of the guys that should be bumped by fehr??

    after his play in this years tourney, dawes should be an automatic for next years squad
     
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    My team canada if the NHL lockout is still on going

    Goalies:
    1)Devan Dubnyk
    2) David Shantz
    Defence:
    1) Dion Phaneuf
    2) Brent Seabrook
    3) Shawn Belle
    4) Braydon Coburn
    5) Cam Barker
    6) Shea Weber
    7) Andy Rogers
    Forwards:
    1) Sidney Crosby
    2) Mike Richards
    3) Patrice Bergeron
    4) Anthony Stewart
    5) Nigel Dawes
    6) Jeff Carter
    7) Ryan Getzlaf
    8) Corey Perry
    9) Alexandre Picard
    10) Kyle Chipchurra
    11) Andrew Ladd
    12) Jeremy Colliton
    13) Gilbert Brule

    So many other players could be on this team... here would be my lines as well
    1st - Richards--Dawes--Stewart
    2nd - Crosby :yo: -- Getzlaf -- Bergeron
    3rd - Carter -- Perry -- Ladd
    4th - Chipchurra -- Picard -- Colliton / Brule
    D Pairings
    1 Phaneuf-- Belle
    2 Seabrook -- Coburn
    3 Weber-- Barker
    7th D Rogers

    Goalies
    1st Dubnyk
    2nd Shantz
     
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    Nigel Dawes is a beast. I'm so jealous of the Rangers with lundmark and Dawes. In fact, i'm so jealous of the rangers entire farm club. But I highly doubt sather will know what to do with them.
     
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    I don't see how those players offer any more offensive punch (ok- Bergeron) than those already mentioned- save maybe Colliton. It's not like those Q guys are better oggensively than Stewart, Richards, Dawes, Horton or even Corey Perry.

    And last year's team was very powerful in all departments. It's not like they lacked firepower (at least the failure to get a goal against the U.S. in the 3rd period doesn't prove so- and I certainly can't see anyone saying "If only Danny Roussin would have been therer, that would've shown those Yanks!"). And they were most certainly NOT a grinding team with a defensive system- look at the scores/results of aLL the games!
     
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    What type of start to the season would Zajac need to get a look?
     
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    Have you seen them play?
    How can you judge of Picard, Bernier, Pouliot or Roussin without seeing them play.
    The ones already stamped as sure shots for this year were seen on national TV and they lacked the offensive punch to secure the gold.
    Funny that you don't talk about the faceoffs against Russia.
     
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    If the lockout is still going, I would expect Nathan Horton and Brent Burns to make the team.
     
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    The same reason you judge every other player without seeing them play.
     
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    I'd be really surprised if Fehr did not make the team.
     
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    Fehr turned into a goal scoring machine. He is one prospect I am excited with in Washington. I feel he could become a big 30/30 man.
     
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    Here's what i'd like to see assuming all players of age are available:

    forwards:
    Stewart-Crosby-Bergeron
    Richards-Getzlaf-Dawes
    Ladd-Carter-Perry
    Dixon-Chipchura-Colliton
    Bolland

    Defence:
    Phaneuf-Coburn
    Belle-Seabrooke
    Green-Barker
    Schultz

    Dubnyk
    Shantz

    With Horton and Burns

    Stewart-Horton-Bergeron
    Burns-Crosby-Dawes
    Richards-Getzlaf-Carter
    Dixon-Chipchura-Colliton
    Bolland

    Defence:
    Phaneuf-Coburn
    Belle-Seabrooke
    Green-Barker
    Schultz

    Dubnyk
    Shantz
     
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