Canadian Team Executive says incompetence of Matthews Deal will affect the rest of the League

[LeafsNation75]

Insane deals on our star players. I'll take it.

I love how AM is an insane deal yet we kept being told Arizona would sign him to a franchise altering 15 mill a year deal. Besides AM list the "insane deals".

Don't say Nylander. That's market value.

It's funny how others on here wanted to see Matthews sign a maximum offer sheet with Arizona and complain about the actual contract he signs with Toronto.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

Has he been in a funk or is his astronomically high onSH% from the last two seasons starting to normalize?

Funk.

 

[King Mapes]

Has he been in a funk or is his astronomically high onSH% from the last two seasons starting to normalize?

Well if it's over two seasons, I would assume that is more normal than the last 20 games, no? I love the logic though.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Has he been in a funk or is his astronomically high onSH% from the last two seasons starting to normalize?

Last night Matthews got 1 goals and 2 assists, so maybe you can say his recent struggles are finished.

 

[McDNicks17]

Well if it's over two seasons, I would assume that is more normal than the last 20 games, no? I love the logic though.

Taking the "my player with clearly unsustainable numbers can definitely sustain them" stance while also making a quip about logic.

Bold strategy.

 

[King Mapes]

lol. leaf fans continue to defend the contract. seems like a lot of them have no idea what term is and how that affects the contract value, that this contract only bought 1 ufa year, and compared to recent comparables (mcdavid/eichel) it doesn't make sense.

Seems like a lot of non Leaf fans care greatly about their cap situation but fail to realize elite goal scorers get paid more than other players.

 

[King Mapes]

Taking the "my player with clearly unsustainable numbers can definitely sustain them" stance while also making a quip about logic.

Bold strategy.

Not really. So for 2 years he put up those numbers but that's not the real Matthews, the last 20 games is.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Seems like a lot of non Leaf fans care greatly about their cap situation but fail to realize elite goal scorers get paid more than other players.

Those same non Leafs fans wanted Matthews and now Marner to sign offer sheets hoping it will screw their cap situation. So basically they would have had no problem if Matthews signed the exact same deal via an offer sheet.

 

[McDNicks17]

Not really. So for 2 years he put up those numbers but that's not the real Matthews, the last 20 games is.

We're talking about two Matthews years, so basically one season worth of games for most players.

 

[King Mapes]

We're talking about two Matthews years, so basically one season worth of games for most players.

So players play 140 game seasons? Jesus.

McDavid missed more time his first 3 years. You realize that right?

 

[King Mapes]

Those same non Leafs fans wanted Matthews and now Marner to sign offer sheets hoping it will screw their cap situation. So basically they would have had no problem if Matthews signed the exact same deal via an offer sheet.

He was supposed to sign 15 mill a year to Arizona that's the best part. Arizona was being sent to screw the Leafs.

 

[HalfLife]

It's a bad deal. I'm not sure why we, as leafs fans, keep denying it. It doesn't make you less of a fan if you disagree with your front office's transactions.

 

[McDNicks17]

So players play 140 game seasons? Jesus.

McDavid missed more time his first 3 years. You realize that right?

22 games prior to the 20 game funk. 62 games last season. I'm pretty sure 84 games is pretty close to what players play in a season...


Matthews' 5v5 onSH% during those 84 games was 12.91%. The highest in the league by 1.05%.

To illustrate how astronomically high that is, Ovechkin is sitting at 8th(with a 500 toi min) during that span with 11.11%. He's as close to the 71st highest player(Eric Staal at 9.31%) as he is Matthews.

Like I said, you've taken an interesting stance, but you won't be the first or last fan of a player with blatantly unsustainable numbers to condescendingly argue that their player is different than all those before him.

 

[HalfLife]

Oh how mighty Dumbass the god has fallen! LOL.

For anyone wanting to bring up Draisaitl, let me know when Matthews ever gets 70 points or cracks the top 20 in scoring in his career, or makes the 2nd round of the playoffs before you bring up players with a better resume.

That avatar makes you seem like a petty person, brother. Why troll when you can be a nice guy?

 

[LeafsNation75]

He was supposed to sign 15 mill a year to Arizona that's the best part. Arizona was being sent to screw the Leafs.

I also heard he was supposed to sign an offer sheet with the Islanders because Lou Lamoriello wanted revenge for Tavares going to Toronto, even though they forget he was a UFA and was free to sign with whatever team wanted to.

 

[hotpaws]

It's a bad deal. I'm not sure why we, as leafs fans, keep denying it. It doesn't make you less of a fan if you disagree with your front office's transactions.

since your new i'll let in on a little secret

the only way to be a true Leaf fan is to spin/deflect/defend every move the team makes especially now that the the greatest hockey mind in the history of game is our GM

on the Leaf board AM's deal is trying to be spun as team friendly , lol

 

[King Mapes]

22 games prior to the 20 game funk. 62 games last season. I'm pretty sure 84 games is pretty close to what players play in a season...


Matthews' 5v5 onSH% during those 84 games was 12.91%. The highest in the league by 1.05%.

To illustrate how astronomically high that is, Ovechkin is sitting at 8th(with a 500 toi min) during that span with 11.11%. He's as close to the 71st highest player(Eric Staal at 9.31%) as he is Matthews.

Like I said, you've taken an interesting stance, but you won't be the first or last fan of a player with blatantly unsustainable numbers to condescendingly argue that their player is different than all those before him.

Well you said 2 seasons so I was assuming you actually meant 2 seasons. Regardless you won't be the first or last who will point to an 84 game sample size and say that's not the real player, it's a hot streak and point to a much smaller sample size (20 games) and say that's the real player and not a funk.

Because logic.

 

[King Mapes]

Oh how mighty Dumbass the god has fallen! LOL.

For anyone wanting to bring up Draisaitl, let me know when Matthews ever gets 70 points or cracks the top 20 in scoring in his career, or makes the 2nd round of the playoffs before you bring up players with a better resume.

Because Draisaitl is in an ideal situation

Let me know when Drai finishes second in goals. See I can do that too.

Also this:

Leon Draisaitl first 3 years

191 GP
50 goals
87 assists
137 points

Matthews first 3 years (so far)

186 games
99 goals
83 assists
182 points

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

I also heard he was supposed to sign an offer sheet with the Islanders because Lou Lamoriello wanted revenge for Tavares going to Toronto, even though they forget he was a UFA and was free to sign with whatever team wanted to.

Fertile imagination at work here.

 

[McDNicks17]

Well you said 2 seasons so I was assuming you actually meant 2 seasons. Regardless you won't be the first or last who will point to an 84 game sample size and say that's not the real player, it's a hot streak and point to a much smaller sample size (20 games) and say that's the real player and not a funk.

Because logic.

Aren't 2017/18 and 2018/19 two seasons?

I never said this 20 game funk was the real player. I said his onSH% was starting to normalize.

And what's with another ironic quip about logic? You actually think the "real player" being the one who has numbers that have literally never been sustained by any player ever is the logical stance?

 

[King Mapes]

Aren't 2017/18 and 2018/19 two seasons?

I never said this 20 game funk was the real player. I said his onSH% was starting to normalize.

And what's with another ironic quip about logic? You actually think the "real player" being the one who has numbers that have literally never been sustained by any player ever is the logical stance?

I'm saying an 84 game sample size is not a small sample size.

And sure but you said 84 games is like a full year to players but fail to realize this season still has quite a few games left. So which player has played close to 84 games this year?

 

[LeafsNation75]

Because Draisaitl is in an ideal situation

Let me know when Drai finishes second in goals. See I can do that too.

Also this:

Leon Draisaitl first 3 years

191 GP
50 goals
87 assists
137 points

Matthews first 3 years (so far)

186 games
99 goals
83 assists
182 points

Never mind all the 5v5 goals Matthews scored in his rookie season, because I believe he lead the league in that category for a while well into his second season.

 

[McDNicks17]

I'm saying an 84 game sample size is not a small sample size.

And sure but you said 84 games is like a full year to players but fail to realize this season still has quite a few games left. So which player has played close to 84 games this year?

That's the same argument that people made about every player who proved to have had a season with unsustainable numbers.

And what? I'm not sure what the remaining games left in this season has to do with the statement that 84 games is pretty close to what most players play in a season. The point to bringing up the 84 games was to show he did it over a very similar sample size to all the players before him.

 

[NextYear67]

I'm good with the contract. Happy to have the player and no drama.

 

[Duffalufagus]

I’m sure it has been said already but, at this number, Matthews has to maximize his potential to return value.

Not a good contract. Overpay.