Canada's (New) Biggest Rival

Chimpradamus

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I know this is OT and both these posts will most likely be removed, but this is utter ********.
"Prevalent in society" WRONG! I have never ever met a single person who is ashamed of their success or think they can't grow up to be something great.
Jantelagen is a myth, more or less.
You need to get abroad more for some perspective. If you honestly don't think we have cultural tendencies, I don't know what to say. Ashamed for success is NOT what reflects the Jante Law into our society today. I do agree the cultural disrepancies are getting smaller every day, but they are still there, more in team sports than anything I think, because that is perhaps the only and last place where the Jante Law actually makes sense nowadays. Because that is an enviroment where you will see visual and direct results from working for the collective and not yourself.

That is also why alot of Scandinavian players are generally so likeable when they arrive to other teams, because they totally buy into the idea of working for the collective, because they have seen the results. That might also be why Scandinavians consider the AHL so unlikeable, because that is perhaps one of the most individually competitive leagues there is.
Well, if you think that you are most probably a socialist or very young. I'm not basing this on the company I keep or by people I meet, I'm basing it on the behaviour of society as a whole, fueled by the media.

Jealousy of your neighbour and suspicion against people with their own businesses for example are very common. As I said, it is changing, but will take a generation or two without socialist influence on the minds and hearts of the population to be erradicated.

To say it's a myth is just false. Fact: People who win money on the lottery generally get more respect in Sweden than people who make their own money through hard work. It's a sad fact but anyone who has seen anything knows it unfortunately still holds true.
Now this post will be a long one as usual from me, but I consider it a very important discussion.

Jealousy of your neighbour is more of the culture of competition than any Jante Law. That so many feel the need to have the fanciest car in the neighbourhood is 100% showboating and wholeheartedly buying the false belief that consumtion can make you happier - and showing it. And of course a tint of dehumanization, since way too many people assume most people they don't know are probably idiots.

When you understand that if you will get rich as a CEO or by winning the lottery is basically ALL a lottery, you get a different perspective. Because if you become rich from a business or not, is not based on rationality, but who you know, if you're lucky, how much time you are willing to spend (the somewhat rational aspect), how good you are at manipulating other people, how much of a psychopath you are and how corrupted you are willing to be.

I do agree small business owners get literally harrassed, but that has alot to do with corrupt politics. The suspicion that is there against business owners, has more to do with social demoralization and propaganda. You think most other people are dishonest and corrupt, which they also probably are to some extent, because today, you're considered stupid if you're not. You get no visible results from genuinely caring about others. So Jante Law or not, the society is a mess and the Swedish social welfare system is today a myth. It is the everyone for themselves scenario that is playing out. "Collective responsibility" is nowadays a word that most people in Industrialized countries see as a joke, because of the created cultural climate I call a joke.

That's why people should get the idea out of their heads that the system has ever cared about them. It has and always will be about the welfare of a monetary elite, that is openly robbing people blind. That is pretty obvious by now. That has very little to do with the ancient Jante Law though and more of a generally accepted, widespread corruption that is totally getting out of hand.

When you form a society where demoralization is widespread from blunt entertainment, corrupt authorities on all levels, a corrupt media with very scewed monetary ideals, where dehumanization is required to perform your work efficiently, where the most corrupt, selfish, individualistic people with psychopathic tendencies will gain immediate advantages, what did people expect?

This is probably the peak of civilization, things won't get much better than it is now. Now there will start a general down slope. A system that favours a monetary elite that is strangling the little man, where everyone believe everyone else are idiots who deserve what they get, where you will take for your own whatever is not bolted to the wall and consider it a right, where all authorities do is basically cheer because their welfare is secured and the general income will only be lower and lower, while everything will only get more expensive... and in all this, people actually believe a monetary price tag is the real price we're paying for this mess (it has been proven a working eco system is worth twice as much to us as if we pick it apart for its resources for completely redundant consumtion)... and we have a system that favours and requires unlimited monetary growth at the expense of the eco system... how can it not lead to a total collapse?

This can turn ugly real fast. My bet is we will see a widespread dictatorship. Well, we basically already have widespread corporatist dictatorship, people just haven't realized it - and probably never will, because they look at the corporatist (the same corporations and banks that already own basically everything and everyone) media for news. If you swallow all the lies, it's not hard to believe everything is just fine and will be, at least long enough for you to live a comfortable life. The same people who haven't realized all their pension funds are literally GONE from speculation and corruption.

The question is: Will people ever try to be aware of all the bullcrap and not close their eyes because it is more convenient, where the indifference in man is favoured on an individual level... will people actually stand up for themselves, and do something about this before it's too late?

And that is why I actually am in favour of the Jante Law. If everyone would work for eachother and see why it is rational, this wouldn't have happened. This is why I consider individuality such a joke, because if you're an individualist and believe it is the answer, you are deeply fooling yourself. Everything is connected and it is the connections with others that are keeping us alive. The only thing to take from individualism are the tools for individual responsibility, because without that, you can't have freedom.

We are calling this civilization. We are still killing eachother for fiat money. Is that what you call civilization? I call it chaotic, destructive barbarism under the illusion of order (another word for controlled mental oppression). What we call problems, is not equivalent to what the system considers as problems. When people don't break laws because they are afraid of the consequences if they get caught, instead of actually believing the act of committing crimes is wrong... you have a problem.

The moment we started believing it is more convenient to take from others than to give and actually appreciate life, we were screwed.
 
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So Jante Law or not, the society is a mess and the Swedish social welfare system is today a myth. It is the everyone for themselves scenario that is playing out. "Collective responsibility" is nowadays a word that most people in Industrialized countries see as a joke, because of the created cultural climate I call a joke.

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That slowly disappeared when the mass immigration started in the early 80s. I'm sure some people will call that racist, which will mean that they don't even know what racism is - it is, however, the truth.


But Jante-law still exists in Sweden, at least in the 60-65% of the population that are ethnic Swedes. It is annoying at times, but it's way better than the alternative, and one of the bigger reasons for Sweden still clinging on as one of the best places to live....I'm not sure I agree anymore, but that's the view the rest of the world seems to have.
 

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In regards to the OP, I don't know what to say. Thanks? Almighty Canada sees Sweden as a rival due to perceived insults and thin skin.

It stands to reason that not once did you stop to consider what sort of image Canada portrays abroad. When one of your icons has made a name for himself bashing Europeans, leading a cadre of head-nodders in front of their TV sets, and when Canada exhibits a sense of entitlement that goes well beyond pretension, it isn't odd that these countries will be gunning for you. Oftentimes Canada comes off as insecure, needing to remind the world that they're awesome at hockey, and taking any criticism as a perceived slight on their national character. The Russians see it, the Finns see it, the Yanks see it, the Czechs see it, even many Canadians see it. Of course there is going to be a reaction against it. But when you use as an example of insult a congratulatory sign hung on a door, you're seeing phantoms.

Here's the deal: there are 10-12 nations who don't like you, Canada. You're a little special because you're the best, and everyone is gunning for you, but they don't like each other, either. That doesn't make them any different than yourself.
 

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Lol, i couldnt care less about some canadian trolls, Sweden is the best country in the world and if hockey was the biggest sport in sweden we would be the best at it easily.
 
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The more rivals Canada has , the better

Will help inspire them and show them the world's after them

It isn't just them anymore in this tournament, the rest of the hockey tournament has caught up with them. They aren't invincible.

Go out there next year and construct the best roster possible to seize gold in a tough tournament.
 

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I have no idea what this thread is about.

Didn't see anything especially disrespectful from the Swedes, but even so, nothing to rival your team's captain elbowing unsuspecting people in the face.

Canada is like England in football or USA in basketball.
They invented the sport, have the best and deepest talent pool (well okay, not England in football), but they display a certain arrogance in expecting to win everything like they're entitled to it.

Well, the depth of the talent is still there, better than any other nation, but the top-end talent... Is on par with other nations.

Russians caught up 30-40 years ago in that area, Swedes, Czechs and the US in the 90s. Finns close as well.
And while the Czechs have fallen off a bit with Jagr and Hasek gone, and Finns still being the underdogs every tournament, I see no reason why the US, Russia or Sweden couldn't beat Canada on any given night.
 

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In regards to the OP, I don't know what to say. Thanks? Almighty Canada sees Sweden as a rival due to perceived insults and thin skin.

It stands to reason that not once did you stop to consider what sort of image Canada portrays abroad. When one of your icons has made a name for himself bashing Europeans, leading a cadre of head-nodders in front of their TV sets, and when Canada exhibits a sense of entitlement that goes well beyond pretension, it isn't odd that these countries will be gunning for you. Oftentimes Canada comes off as insecure, needing to remind the world that they're awesome at hockey, and taking any criticism as a perceived slight on their national character. The Russians see it, the Finns see it, the Yanks see it, the Czechs see it, even many Canadians see it. Of course there is going to be a reaction against it. But when you use as an example of insult a congratulatory sign hung on a door, you're seeing phantoms.

Here's the deal: there are 10-12 nations who don't like you, Canada. You're a little special because you're the best, and everyone is gunning for you, but they don't like each other, either. That doesn't make them any different than yourself.

Every country has some right-wing loudmouth who's lionized by assorted mouthbreathers and the elderly. Don Cherry is less an icon then he is Canada's living embodiment of "Archie Bunker". Some take him as gospel but a far greater number just choose to laugh or ignore him instead. If the rest of the world see Cherry as the emperor of Canadian hockey that's really unfortunate. I would have thought Gretzky, Sakic, Orr, Lemieux, Niedermayer, Yzerman, Crosby, etc would have been a tad more influential.

As for the sign on the door, I didn't take it as as a slight. I mean it's not like anyone in Canada was expecting a bouquet of flowers from the Swedes if we had won. I think there certainly is an "anybody but Canada" attitude for a lot countries at the end of the day though, and this was just an embodiment of that.

I had no issue with Ronnberg's post-game comments, but brutal honesty like that is catnip to the media so if you underachieve you can guarantee hay will be made. At the same time I'm pretty damn skeptical there would have been no reaction among any Swedes if Eberle had been talking as brashly as MPS was in 09 before the final.

As for Lehner's conspiracy theories, I don't even know where that comes from. I'm a big fan of his but I thought insinuating that a call in a Russia - Sweden game was evidence that Canada is favored by the refs was frankly embarrassing.

At the end of the day I think most Canadians see Russia and the US as our fiercest rivals presently with Sweden next in line. The vast majority of Canadians respect Swedish hockey which is owed in part to the long tenures high profile Swedes have had on Canadian franchises, be it Salming, Sundin, Alfie, Naslund, Sedins, etc.

Canadians are well aware we have a target on our back, 10 WJC finals in a row will do that to you. But I don't think we'd have it any other way, I think most Canadians relish that position. Calgary/Edmonton is gonna be a blast, and if you're rocking the Tre Kronor don't be surprised if a Canadian peace pipe or two is passed on the left hand side in your direction.;)
 

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Well, if you think that you are most probably a socialist or very young. I'm not basing this on the company I keep or by people I meet, I'm basing it on the behaviour of society as a whole, fueled by the media.

Jealousy of your neighbour and suspicion against people with their own businesses for example are very common. As I said, it is changing, but will take a generation or two without socialist influence on the minds and hearts of the population to be erradicated.

To say it's a myth is just false. Fact: People who win money on the lottery generally get more respect in Sweden than people who make their own money through hard work. It's a sad fact but anyone who has seen anything knows it unfortunately still holds true.

:laugh: No I'm not socialist. And I'm 23, don't know what you mean by "very young" though. Still, I have never met anyone, including grand parents, that have that mind set.
But whatever, I don't care what people think. If they want to go through life filled with jealousy and hatred, let them, not my concern.

Chimp: I've been abroad enough, thank you.
 

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That slowly disappeared when the mass immigration started in the early 80s. I'm sure some people will call that racist, which will mean that they don't even know what racism is - it is, however, the truth.


But Jante-law still exists in Sweden, at least in the 60-65% of the population that are ethnic Swedes. It is annoying at times, but it's way better than the alternative, and one of the bigger reasons for Sweden still clinging on as one of the best places to live....I'm not sure I agree anymore, but that's the view the rest of the world seems to have.

It's more like 80% ethnic Swedes, and how has immigration dismantled our "welfare system". You really seem to think that non-Swedish people have a lesser moral standing in our world.


I like your thoughts on the jante law Chimp, I've thought similar things for a while. Individualism in our modern capitalist society is like a false flag operation and it doesn't make people happy just alone,depressed and removed. The problem is when you start bringing up collectivism most people will directly draw parallels to the Soviet union or North Korea, instead of looking at Scandinavia for succesful "socialism". Commie countries are built on conformity by force and not free association, it will always fail because it can't provide the liberties that all animals need.


OnT: This thread is hilarious. Canada has pulled ******** stunts like the Swedes supposedly did this year for decades. We could make a longass laundry list of greasy **** they have done and said. This is nothing.
 

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Swedes love to indulge in conspiracy theories about the WJC. I guess that kind of stuff comes natural when you've only won the tourny once in 35 years.

Talk is cheap, and frankly irrelevant at the end of the day. Gold is the standard by which success is measured in Canada, if that offends anybody so be it. We set high standards and are not going to apologize for it, snipe away.

This whole thread is nothing but a conspiracy theory (about alleged disrespect towards Canada and whatnot), and it seems to be started by a Canadian. Hmm, are you sure it's not a Swede in disguise who started this thread just to start up a brand new conspiracy theory? :laugh:
 

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It continued after the Swedes shoot-out win when the Swedish coach (with Canadian coach Dave Cameron sitting mere feet away from him) claimed that they had tougher games against the Russians and Czech's even though they won those games by scores of 2-0 and 6-3 respectively as opposed to a hard fought 5-4 shootout win over Canada.

After they lost to Russia in the semi's, goaltender Robin Lehner complained about officiating saying that the called off icing which led to the Russian's second goal "would not have happened to Canada." And then the icing on the cake to Sweden's obvious discontent for the Canadians was when TSN showed a congratulatory sign that was posted on the Russian locker room door almost immediately following their gold medal win. The sign was from the Swedes congratulating the Russians on winning the gold medal, but it might as well have been sent to team Canada because they were clearly trying to rub it in their faces.

It almost seemed as of the Swedes were going out of their way to get under team Canada's skin throughout the entire tournament and although it was rendered meaningless in the end, hopefully it is something the Canadians will remember.

Robin Lehner just said on the radio that the reason the Swedish coach disrespected Canada with the "Russia/Czech's were better" statement was because Dave Cameron wouldn't shake his hand after the game.
 

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Chimp: I've been abroad enough, thank you.
Here's the thing. Fine, you believe in individualism. I can understand why, considering the circumstances. But, as I've tried to explain, when you believe in individualism, you believe in basically nothing but yourself and your own abilities, because that's the only thing you can truly trust. And when you do, you won't stand up for yourself like you convince yourself you will, because alone, you are isolated, weak and can't change one god damn thing. You don't even believe it's possible, do you?

What you believe lies in individualism as an ideal, is not how individualism works in reality. It's as empty of a word as "the american dream". It's pure propaganda, taught to your unconscious mind (habit mind, patterns, memories, etc) through repetition, not through your conscious, creative mind through reason. "Thinking for yourself" in individualism stays as the words in its literal meaning: Thinking for yourself. Not thinking for the betterment and contemplation of yourself and your surroundings.

Example: Most people say, competition is healthy. This comes through indoctrination, because seriously, it's total BS if you actually think about it. People just straight out say it, without contemplating it. Then people also say, life isn't fair and isn't supposed to be fair. Well sure life isn't fair, when you willingly live and compete in an enviroment of constant competition! Competition isn't fair, ineffective, utterly pointless and truly destructive. The most individualistic person you can find, the psychopaths, win. Is the what you aspire to become? I think not. Again, this is just an example of the irrational beliefs people today are taught, leading to a conflict even in themselves, leading to further demoralization.

That is the whole point of an individualistic culture of constant competition and conflict! Conquer by total dividing, even families are split apart by the system and then you get bombarded with mindnumbing, demoralizing, dehumanizing information! You will have zero fighting power left, for anyone but yourself.

The only thing that is actually organised and coworking (well, to some extent, they still have to use cocaine, heavy drugs and other mindnumbing crap to endure their life) is the monetary elite at the top, that will meet no resistance, because everyone are only looking out for themselves and competing, clawing and fighting with eachother for a better position, because everyone believe, through the culture they've been fed, that this is all there is and always will be. People have nothing to compare to, but some tribal villages in some jungle, or some military dictatorship in Burma where they reportedly slaughter their own villages for fun. It ends with people willingly becoming instituionalized, because they are too afraid of what would happen if the institutions that are mentally and physically oppressing them disappeared. The door to the cage is open, but very few dares to step outside.

I have chosen my future, where I and my friends will seek companionship and safety from eachother, not a corrupt system. Let's just say it won't be in a city. We will try to become as self sufficient as we can, with technology and hard work, but also sharing eachothers' experiences. We don't watch TV, we discuss existensialism. The thing is, more and more people are openly starting to question this mess, which is understandable, considering how bleak the future looks and considering, it is our trust in this ******* joke of a system that led us here. My only power as a consumerist in this crap system where you can't even openly protest against it, is to not consume and not become a commodity myself, through indentured servitude in some company or some other crap job, that only helps shuffling fiat money around and further destroying what we have left. I just choose not to participate.

It's not that hard of a choice really. Ask yourself, do you support war? Do you support oppression? Do you support pure destruction? If the answers are "no", you must support this system as little as possible, because this system sees nothing wrong with having wars. You even pay taxes for having them, perhaps you will even stand on the front line yourself, risking your own life for the mass murdering of everyone else wearing a different uniform. Why? For your own and others safety (WTF!!? How can they even openly claim they have these weak arguments?). And because more importantly someone you trust - an authority figure that is only a puppet himself - told you to.

Perhaps the most twisted thing I've found in all this, is the collectivism and fellowship of soldiers (because really, they are the epitome of destruction). They find a deeper meaning in their lives, through collectively in small units, risking even their own lives for eachother. Standing up for eachother, regardless of the situation. It comes to the point where some of them can't even return to a "normal" life, because the affection for the strong feelings and the brotherhood they felt in a unit is nothing a bleak society can replace or give them. Their lives become so bleak and empty, that they become deeply depressed when they face the societal solitude and meaninglessness. "This is why me and my brothers in arms risked our lives, killing other human beings? So that I can choose between 45 different brands of cereals?"

That's also why professional athletes can't quit their sport, because the sport is beyond a sport or a job for them. What they truly appreciate, is sharing great experiences and hardship in the company of what have come to be their dearest friends.
... I like your thoughts on the jante law Chimp, I've thought similar things for a while. Individualism in our modern capitalist society is like a false flag operation and it doesn't make people happy just alone,depressed and removed. The problem is when you start bringing up collectivism most people will directly draw parallels to the Soviet union or North Korea, instead of looking at Scandinavia for succesful "socialism". Commie countries are built on conformity by force and not free association, it will always fail because it can't provide the liberties that all animals need.
That is because collectivism only truly works at a local level, before people start dehumanizing and demoralizing eachother. And well, perhaps on a larger scale if the culture is changed. That is why the Jante Law has stayed so strong in team sports in Scandinavia. You have to know those in your surroundings. And you have to buy into the concept of fellowship, because you see with your own eyes that it's working. When people in a culture think it's nicer to give to others than to take yourself, you can find a stable system in a community.

And that is where I think people will restart all of this. In local communities, where your words and actions actually gives meaning. All I've found in cities is self destructive behaviour, both from myself (no, not drugs and stuff, just living, working and trying to be a citizen, that's perfectly enough to become a shell) and everyone in my surroundings. Where people actually believe nothing has a real price, when in fact everything has. It's a system doomed to fail.

It's not a question about if. Only when and how.
 
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Every country has some right-wing loudmouth who's lionized by assorted mouthbreathers and the elderly. Don Cherry is less an icon then he is Canada's living embodiment of "Archie Bunker". Some take him as gospel but a far greater number just choose to laugh or ignore him instead. If the rest of the world see Cherry as the emperor of Canadian hockey that's really unfortunate. I would have thought Gretzky, Sakic, Orr, Lemieux, Niedermayer, Yzerman, Crosby, etc would have been a tad more influential.

As for the sign on the door, I didn't take it as as a slight. I mean it's not like anyone in Canada was expecting a bouquet of flowers from the Swedes if we had won. I think there certainly is an "anybody but Canada" attitude for a lot countries at the end of the day though, and this was just an embodiment of that.

I had no issue with Ronnberg's post-game comments, but brutal honesty like that is catnip to the media so if you underachieve you can guarantee hay will be made. At the same time I'm pretty damn skeptical there would have been no reaction among any Swedes if Eberle had been talking as brashly as MPS was in 09 before the final.

As for Lehner's conspiracy theories, I don't even know where that comes from. I'm a big fan of his but I thought insinuating that a call in a Russia - Sweden game was evidence that Canada is favored by the refs was frankly embarrassing.

At the end of the day I think most Canadians see Russia and the US as our fiercest rivals presently with Sweden next in line. The vast majority of Canadians respect Swedish hockey which is owed in part to the long tenures high profile Swedes have had on Canadian franchises, be it Salming, Sundin, Alfie, Naslund, Sedins, etc.

Canadians are well aware we have a target on our back, 10 WJC finals in a row will do that to you. But I don't think we'd have it any other way, I think most Canadians relish that position. Calgary/Edmonton is gonna be a blast, and if you're rocking the Tre Kronor don't be surprised if a Canadian peace pipe or two is passed on the left hand side in your direction.;)

I couldn't agree more with this. I kind of like the attitude that the Swedes had in a way because it was honest and it also probably helped to motivate the Canadians. I don't know where the Canada doesn't respect Sweden comments come from though. In my opinion that is very far off of the truth.

Most Canadian people see Sweden as one of Canada's top threats. Before the tournament began, if you asked any (knowledgeable) Canadian who they thought would be the top European nation in the tournament they probably would have pointed to the Swedes.

Also, because hockey IS a large part of Canadian culture, some people were bound to be angry about the comments. TSN hypes this tournament so much. Half of Canada watched it and a few of the people that I watched it with were crying when Russia came back.
 

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It's more like 80% ethnic Swedes, and how has immigration dismantled our "welfare system". You really seem to think that non-Swedish people have a lesser moral standing in our world.


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Over 15% of the population are born outside of Sweden, then add second generation immigrants and you have a solid 35-40% that are not ethnic Swedes (depending how you define ethnic).

I just did an essay about this at the University and know my facts.

I don't know about a lesser moral standing, but immigrants or second generation immigrants are far more likely to be unemployed and on welfare, which of course costs a lot of money - which in turn brings the welfare system to its knees. Something that incidentally has happened in Sweden.

That's the result of taking in 100 000 immigrants every year, despite having over 350 000 unemployed. It doesn't make any sense, and that's one of many reasons Sweden has dropped down from the "best country in the world to live in"-lists.

We used to be number 1.
 

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Nope. Russia has always been our biggest hockey rival and they continue to be. The USA takes a backseat in that regard.
 

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Oh the hypocrisy of some Canadians. Oh boo-hoo, the Swedes are disrespectful, they put up a note congratulating Russia just to mess with us! The Swedish coach claimed we sucked compared to Russia! How dare they! We’re team Canada! They are just jealous!

Get over it. What about the Canadian coach who harassed a Swedish reporter after our loss against Russia? What about two years ago when Sweden were refused to have a certain locker room just because it was “too good†for them and no one but Canada could have it?

Please, so someone is giving you a taste of your own medicine. It’s a crime against humanity. :laugh:

Good first post Patchy, welcome.

Canadians expect the rest of the hockey world to kiss its a$$ without question. If Canada wins, the rest of the world is supposed to all bown down and sing "Oh Canada" in unison. If Canada loses, their opponent is expected to credit Canada's effort, Canada's heart, and credit them with being the kings of the game. Meanwhile, the Canadians go off and whine about how their foe got a lucky bounce, or the ref blew a call, or they outplayed their opponent despite losing the game...anything other than "We got beat by a better team."

Not to mention they keep trying to insist "O Canada" should be played at every NHL game regardless of location or teams playing. And that the World Cup of Hockey go back to being called the "Canada Cup."

Bottom line, it's "their" game, and the sooner you accept the fact, the better. :nod:
 

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