Darren McCord
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Can Sullivan Coach Stars?
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Big Friggin Dummy
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Yeah, he coached 'em to back to back Cups while completely changing the atmosphere to be more disciplined and completely revamping the style/system to play into our speed and skill.
Can Sullivan control his incessant urge to play favorites with bad players? No. That, I do not think he can do.
Can Sullivan control his incessant urge to play favorites with bad players? No. That, I do not think he can do.
Uhm... yes?
Our stars have been exceptional under Sully. Since Tocchet's gone, Geno and Sid are 6th and 7th for ppg despite injury problems and revolving casts and hitting the years in which everyone expects them to start edging gracefully towards that good night. Letang's 8th among dmen with over a 100 games. What exactly are we expecting here?
If the stars didn't respect Sully or want him here, he'd be gone.
Our stars have been exceptional under Sully. Since Tocchet's gone, Geno and Sid are 6th and 7th for ppg despite injury problems and revolving casts and hitting the years in which everyone expects them to start edging gracefully towards that good night. Letang's 8th among dmen with over a 100 games. What exactly are we expecting here?
If the stars didn't respect Sully or want him here, he'd be gone.
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This is eerily similar to the Bylsma days. He coached much better with crappy players too.
The team gave up on Sully last year and are doing it again.
I know it might seem extreme, but it’s time to let go Recchi and Sully. We would be on an 8 game losing streak if it wasn’t for 2 games against AHL teams.
The team gave up on Sully last year and are doing it again.
I know it might seem extreme, but it’s time to let go Recchi and Sully. We would be on an 8 game losing streak if it wasn’t for 2 games against AHL teams.
Gurglesons
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Tocchet has literally capsized Kessel and Taylor Hall.
ChaosAgent
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Change the thread title to: "Can Mike Sullivan turn this around?"
The actual question. And I'm leaning towards no.
The actual question. And I'm leaning towards no.
Gurglesons
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When do the players get blamed? Sullivan has this team firing at all cylinders. Sid gets back and everyone gets comfortable.
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Sid had a great year last year under Sully
Geno has had a great year this year under Sully.
Letang has always had ups and downs with his game throughout his career.
Geno has had a great year this year under Sully.
Letang has always had ups and downs with his game throughout his career.
ChaosAgent
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Yeah the players are more to blame than Sullivan. I don't disagree with that at all. But as the old saying goes, easier to fire the coach than replace the players.
Yes, he can work with what he has...however, this team has gone from looking for skilled players to help our other skilled players to looking for forecheckers with little skill...and that’s on him because the GM is going along with what he wants to play....so I would say, like a lot of other coaches who were fourth line plugs in their careers, he has little patience for skill and prefers pluggers...
Beauner
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It would greatly help the collective fanbase if people could remember back farther than 3 f***ing months before opening their mouths
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JR built a shit defense because he spent years acquiring awful fits/players like Reaves, Gudbranson, JJ, Pearson, Brassard, etc., which resulted in more years of him spending all of his time trying to undo those f***-ups. When you spray and pray like JR seems to do, and you miss a lot, you spend a lot of time cleaning up your own mess. This is the result of that approach. For every good deal, there are probably two or three that either didn't work out or completely backfired on JR.
This roster, particularly on the blueline, absolutely needs an overhaul. The forwards are close, need some tweaks at 1RW and 3C, but the blueline's in shambles beyond Dumo, Letang, Marino and Riikola--who never plays because the coach has just decided on a whim he doesn't like the guy.
We got work to do this summer, and depending on how the rest of the season/playoffs play out, Sully very realistically might not be a part of it.
This roster, particularly on the blueline, absolutely needs an overhaul. The forwards are close, need some tweaks at 1RW and 3C, but the blueline's in shambles beyond Dumo, Letang, Marino and Riikola--who never plays because the coach has just decided on a whim he doesn't like the guy.
We got work to do this summer, and depending on how the rest of the season/playoffs play out, Sully very realistically might not be a part of it.
Sullivan seems to have two major hurdles he can't get over. The first being his inability to tell Crosby "no" when it comes to wanting one of Sheary or Simon on his line. The other is his loyalty to "his guys" throughout the line-up.
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Sullivan is easily top 5 coach in the nhl....so yes...he can coach stars
JR is the one that should be getting the criticism...he likes our defense and other than zucker trade...i dont think his last few trades made us better...actually think it has hurt us
JR is the one that should be getting the criticism...he likes our defense and other than zucker trade...i dont think his last few trades made us better...actually think it has hurt us
66-30-33
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He coached stars to back to back cups, so yes he can coach stars. In those cup years our best players were our star players.
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Look back to last year’s playoff for proof of his incompetence. The team looks identical to how we finished last season.
JR is much more the problem than Sullivan is IMO. Although I do wonder if his system is sustainable year after year.
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come and take it.
and he seems like a n intelligent rational person. so i need to know what he sees that the rest of us uneducated blind masses don't. when it comes to riiky and some other line combos.
edit; i'm talking to all our insiders... someone has to know something.
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I still wonder about our breakouts. Too often I see other teams carrying the puck through the neutral zone with ease or getting through the lines with 1-2 simple passes that set them up well for a forecheck. Meanwhile we're on the struggle bus to get it out of our zone. We're flinging the puck everywhere and icing CONSTANTLY.
I don't have a background in Xs and Os. Am I imagining things? Is this a system issue - that teams have caught onto something we tend to do? Or is it that 3/6 of the defensemen suck.
I don't have a background in Xs and Os. Am I imagining things? Is this a system issue - that teams have caught onto something we tend to do? Or is it that 3/6 of the defensemen suck.
