Can Olli Jokinen become a modern day Kris Draper?

[WarriorofTime]

Worst career +/- among all active nhl players. Just ahead of Vinny Lecavalier

 

[winnipegger]

Winnipeg replaced Olli with an unproven 21 y/o from the AHL taken in the 3rd round named Adam Lowry.

Lowry has far surpassed Jokinen. Enough said.

 

[ThirdManIn]

It's funny. Joker was actually playing pretty good defense at first. We were happy with him because of it even though he wasn't scoring.

Now he's just taking up a roster spot and not doing anything well.

 

[Terry Yake]

i think that ridiculous flow he's grown out is the problem

dude was bald his entire career until about a year ago and this season he's awful. i think once he shaves his head he'll start producing like the old olli jokinen

 

[Gnashville]

i think that ridiculous flow he's grown out is the problem

dude was bald his entire career until about a year ago and this season he's awful. i think once he shaves his head he'll start producing like the old olli jokinen

Unless he ages backwards along with the haircut, the old Olli Jokinen (which is actually the young OJ) is gone. He is just too slow now. Him and Heatley would make a fun skills competition. The fastest skater would be measured in hours.

 

[dtones520]

Draper had 3 Cup rings by this point in his career.

The fact Jokinen has no cups and Draper has 3 has nothing to do with either as a player..The worst team Draper played on was probably 10x better than the best team Jokinen has played on by a long shot.

With that said Jokinen doesnt have the same skillset to be a Kris Draper. Draper was elite at his role because of his speed, defensive IQ and his ability to win faceoffs. Not to mention he was a pretty clutch mother ****er.

 

[bottomofthefoodchain]

Which offensive game?

 

[ThirdManIn]

The fact Jokinen has no cups and Draper has 3 has nothing to do with either as a player..The worst team Draper played on was probably 10x better than the best team Jokinen has played on by a long shot.

With that said Jokinen doesnt have the same skillset to be a Kris Draper. Draper was elite at his role because of his speed, defensive IQ and his ability to win faceoffs. Not to mention he was a pretty clutch mother ****er.

The 2010-2011 Wings team was not ten times better than the current Preds team, certainly not by a long shot. The guy is just getting old. His effectiveness is gone.

 

[dtones520]

The 2010-2011 Wings team was not ten times better than the current Preds team, certainly not by a long shot. The guy is just getting old. His effectiveness is gone.

Okay, it was a bit of an exaggeration, was my point not made regarding the team success Draper and Jokinen have experienced?

 

[TheAngryHank]

The fact Jokinen has no cups and Draper has 3 has nothing to do with either as a player..The worst team Draper played on was probably 10x better than the best team Jokinen has played on by a long shot.

With that said Jokinen doesnt have the same skillset to be a Kris Draper. Draper was elite at his role because of his speed, defensive IQ and his ability to win faceoffs. Not to mention he was a pretty clutch mother ****er.

OJ wouldn't crack any of those Red Wings rosters.

 

[alchemyindex]

Now that Peter Laviolette has ruined OJ's offensive game and made him a 4th line defensive grinder do you guys think he could become a modern day Kris Draper for Nashville Predators?

Olli has really improved defensively and is a +/- 0 despite only putting up 2 points. That's a huge improvement when you consider OJ is -138 for his career despite putting up over 700 Points. Could we see a Kris Draper kind of career for OJ with Nashville were he could win a couple of cups before retiring?

Lavy, if you're reading this, you didn't do anything wrong. OJ was absolutely godawful in Winnipeg, and I'm insanely glad we shored up our C with Mathieu Perreault and Aadam Lowry.

 

[The Red Line]

lol Draper was Selke winning speedy defensive center. That is the exact opposite of what Jokinen is currently.

 

[alexmanu]

Annoying this is that Austin Watson could come up from Milwaukee right now and be ten-times the player that Jokinen is.

 

[Ezpz]

Sure, he's about as good as modern day Draper.

 

[wunderpanda]

Before he can become the new Draper, someone has to become the new Claude Lemieux.

 

[Machinehead]

Jokinen sucks

 

[DeYarmond Edison]

Draper was a solid player up until the day he retired. Always played a great shutdown game and hardly lost a battle for the puck in the corners. His speed and effort is something Olli likely doesn't live up to.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

Annoying this is that Austin Watson could come up from Milwaukee right now and be ten-times the player that Jokinen is.

There are several players on the Ads who could come up right now and be better than Jokinen.

Watson, Sissons, Aberg, Leipsic, Salomaki. Even Clune.

 

[triggrman]

There are several players on the Ads who could come up right now and be better than Jokinen.

Watson, Sissons, Aberg, Leipsic, Salomaki. Even Clune.

Agreed

 

[Scrobble]

OJ is one of the best defensive forwards now. It will be interesting to watch for sure.

Forgot the ?

He might have improved defensively a little playing a bottom-6 role but there's no way he's even close to being one of the best defensive forwards. I wouldn't even call him good defensively. He is slightly below-average by now probably.

 

[Mulletman]

The fact Jokinen has no cups and Draper has 3 has nothing to do with either as a player..The worst team Draper played on was probably 10x better than the best team Jokinen has played on by a long shot.

With that said Jokinen doesnt have the same skillset to be a Kris Draper. Draper was elite at his role because of his speed, defensive IQ and his ability to win faceoffs. Not to mention he was a pretty clutch mother ****er.

Hey, OJ is clutch too! Olli has 13 overtime goals in his career, but Laviolette refuses to put OJ on the ice when it matters. It's pretty much only Jagr, Sundin and Ovechkin that has more career overtime goals...

 

[ThirdManIn]

Hey, OJ is clutch too! Olli has 13 overtime goals in his career, but Laviolette refuses to put OJ on the ice when it matters. It's pretty much only Jagr, Sundin and Ovechkin that has more career overtime goals...

Tell me more about how Laviolette refuses to put a guy who has two points all season on the ice when it matters.

Actually, don't.