Can Crosby get to 2,000 career points?

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  1. BallardEra

    BallardEra Leafs&Caps Since 1982™

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    I know a lot of people will say no but I don't think the idea is too far fetched. If he decides to stick around until 42-43 years old like Matt Cullen does, I say he hits 2,000 points.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Jacob

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    Most players don’t have the luxury of choosing whether or not to play until 40+, injuries and other factors make the call for them.

    I say no.
     
  3. Laveuglette

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    I don't see it happening. Still hell of a player, though. But he won't play until 45 and will not continue at his current pace for long. He'll be good for still a couple of years, then will retire when he starts the big decline. I don't see Crosby, who has had serious concussions, sticking around too long when he's no longer elite. In 5-7 years or so he'll hang them I think.
     
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    Not sure if he will play in 22-23 or will do Zetterberg to the league.
     
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    Normally I would say "hell no" and list reasons, but scoring in the league seems to be picking up - so maybe if the Pens get some young talent that he can feed pucks to, anything is possible.

    That said, I don't think he's man enough to compete in the NHL at that age. I've never seen anyone compare his toughness to Howe/Chelios/Messier.
     
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    sorry it is far fetched

    he has 1121 at 31

    so he would have to average 80pts a year for the next 10 years?
     
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    which is pretty much what he's been averaging the last few anyways

    so he probably won't even have some seasons well above that over the next few to ease the requirements as he nears and then enters his 40s
     
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    I had hoped this in 2006 but scoring went back down in the years since. 1,500 will be impressive enough. If he gets that much he’ll be the highest scoring 21st century player (currently Jumbo Joe) and probably only McDavid threatens him. That still requires 5-6 more decent injury-free seasons and you never know what can happen.
     
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    Unlikely
    I could see 1700+ though
     
  10. tarheelhockey

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    To put this in perspective, only one player in history has scored 900 points after age 30. That was Gordie Howe, who played until 42 and then left and came back for a season at 51.

    Not counting Howe's freakshow career, Crosby would have to beat the next best points-after-30 record (Messier) by about 70 points.
     
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    he'll finish with 1887.
     
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    I say he finishes with 1700-1800.
     
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    He'll definitely still be playing at that point, he'd only be 35 for that season. I don't know why people doubt he'll play out his contract.
     
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    Don't even see 1700. He'll have to face the choice of sticking around longer as a still good player, but not elite anymore and take a serious risk concerning his longterm health and retiring. He'll retire. He'll stay until 37-38, but once he feels he's not that great anymore, I think he'll retire. He still has 40-50, perhaps 60 if he's lucky, years to live after hockey. Better be prudent about these. Can't blame him if he makes that choice.
     
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    Starting from 22-23 he will be paid 3M per season. If he stays, it's going to be only for the team. I doubt team is more important than health, especially if u got all the money already.
     
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    Nah he will retire earlier

    If he gets more concussions he will want to think about his future

    I see him retiring at 40

    I guess he might get 1700
     
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    Not everyone retires because their pay goes down. I don't know why HF assumes that players are only in it for the money.
     
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    Yeah, but he's still in his physical prime. But that won't last 10 years. It probably won't last 5. Sooner or later the points will slow down, and there will be injuries. It's just really unlikely that anybody in this era can get to 2000.
     
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    He’ll be at 1200 plus at age 32. Maybe 3 more years around the 90’s would take him around 1,500 at age 35.

    We’re taking about a lot of years for him to go concussion free. Just don’t see it.
     
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    Yeah that make it sound impossible (better after 30 than messier, he had 107, 91 , 84, 99, 84 points seasons after 30) without some rules change or science revolution that let him play well until he is 45.
     
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    It's just my guess.
     
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    Chances are extremely thin, unless league wide scoring goes back up significantly and then it becomes more likely.
     
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    The sad thing is that if you project him out to 110 points in 2008, 2011, 2012, and 2013 (the last of which was the half-year we all lost to lockout), then right now he's sitting around 1350. It would still be a huge uphill march to pick up 650 points before retirement, but it wouldn't be the unobtainable goal he faces now. Basically he would just have to have a Jagr-like refusal to retire.
     
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    Age 31-85 points (1201)
    Age 32- 80 points (1281)
    Age 33 80 points (1361)
    Age 34- 75 points(1436)
    Age 35- 40 points (1486) injury
    Age 36-70 points (1556)
    Age 37- 30points (1586) injury
    Age 38- 55 points (1641)

    I think he will retire around 38 same as Gretzky before he declines to much. Added some injury time in there just cause. Pretty conservative numbers. He could be ppg for the rest of his career who knows. You know dam well he’s going to be prepared and in shape. The strength of his game is his down low play using his power and edges and those are not going anywhere. But no 2000 points is out of the question. I’m guessing 1500 low end 1800 high end
     
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  25. Art of Sedinery

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    I don't think 2000 is attainable, but I think he could realistically finished 15th all-time with at least 1799 points. That would be an incredible career, and he would be in the conversation for 5th greatest player ever.
     

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