Cam Atkinson

[Johansen2Foligno]

Cam played a great game tonight. He looked like he got his confidence back after he got that goal.

 

[ndd17]

Great job Cam in this game.

 

[Crede777]

Cam is a very different player when he plays with Johansen.

 

[EDM]

As I mentioned in the game thread, Cam needs space in which to operate and use his sniper skills. Playing with Joey and Nick gives him that space because the other team is shadowing Joey so much. Cam has the skill to make the other team pay when he is given space. I hope TR keeps that line together for a couple of weeks.

 

[niflheim]

Cam is a very different player when he plays with Johansen.

And Hartnell a very different player when he plays with Johansen.. and even Boone I hope yet to see Johansen - Anisimov combo

 

[Crede777]

And Hartnell a very different player when he plays with Johansen.. and even Boone I hope yet to see Johansen - Anisimov combo

To be fair, Morin and Skille had remained pretty much the same with or without Johansen.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

To be fair, Morin and Skille had remained pretty much the same with or without Johansen.

These two are completely out of place on a first line.

 

[niflheim]

To be fair, Morin and Skille had remained pretty much the same with or without Johansen.

Ah! wherefore with infection should he live,
And with his presence grace impiety,
That sin by him advantage should achieve,
And lace itself with his society?

 

[DarkandStormy]

Cam snapped a 17 game goal-less streak last night.

 

[CBJ Tiffin]

Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, but I found it interesting.

 

[EspenK]

Not sure if this was posted elsewhere, but I found it interesting.

Or it could show that looking at Corsi in and of itself is not all that meaningful?

 

[major major]

Or it could show that looking at Corsi in and of itself is not all that meaningful?

I think Corsi is pretty useful.. but you have to make a little adjustment for a player like Cam. He takes a lot of low-percentage shots.

 

[Viqsi]

Or it could show that looking at Corsi in and of itself is not all that meaningful?

Maybe. OTOH, Cam is one of the few forwards we have who I don't think I've ever seen him not successfully get the puck into the opponent's zone. (Whether or not he can keep a hold of it afterwards, tho... that's different. )

 

[EspenK]

I think Corsi is pretty useful.. but you have to make a little adjustment for a player like Cam. He takes a lot of low-percentage shots.

So if I back out all the donuts I eat my diet is actually pretty darn healthy?

 

[ndd17]

Atkinson also my favorite player in our team, but very probably will not be with us in the next season.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

If his Corsi shows you he's a first line player then I think that shows more about Corsi than Cam Atkinson

 

[Cyclones Rock]

If his Corsi shows you he's a first line player then I think that shows more about Corsi than Cam Atkinson

BOOM!!!!!!

While I don't dismiss Corsi and Fenwick, it's nothing more than one measure (of very many) of a player.

It's a proxy stat anyway. It implies that shots attempted equates directly to possession time. While there is a correlation, it's not anywhere near perfect. Some players take an awful lot of shots, many of them bad and from too far away, and they will be rewarded with better "possession" numbers than the player who holds onto the puck (actually "possessing it" more than the quick shooter!) and generates a better shot on his own or to a teammate. Holding the puck longer will result in less shots attempted, but actual possession time could be greater than the player who takes more shots. There are other weaknesses in the stat as well.

Corsi/Fenwick are first generation "advanced" stats that probably will be replaced by much more accurate measures in the near future. The great Russian teams of the 70s would have had terrible Corsi numbers. While there is correlation between team records and Corsis, is that really a surprise? That a good team generates more shots than a poor team does isn't exactly earth-shaking news.

 

[Viqsi]

If his Corsi shows you he's a first line player then I think that shows more about Corsi than Cam Atkinson

They're suggesting first-liner possession with second-liner scoring. Or, IOW, he's an okay scorer but is frequently in a position such that he ought to be able to do better. (Shocking conclusion, I know. )

 

[niflheim]

Our Little Gaborik

 

[stevo61]

love his game this year. hes become a player that contributes lots when hes not scoring but we can pretty much still expect what we will get offensively. had a stretch before this last game where he played over 20 minutes for 4 games in a row, thats a lot of trust which is well deserved

 

[SavesEmNot]

Keep feeding 'em the Atkinson diet!

 

[DarkandStormy]

Cam played 17+ minutes in all but one game in January, and went over 20 minutes several times.

He's upped his shooting % the last couple months and is now up to 13.2% for the season.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

32 points already. He has two years left on his deal after this year, right?

 

[CBJSlash]

I don't think it's a coincidence that the one player that was labelled expendable before the year started, obviously worked incredibly hard and had a great summer...

...whereas most everyone else was trying to "avoid" injury.

 

[blahblah]

Atkinson also my favorite player in our team, but very probably will not be with us in the next season.

That would be contrary to everything we're seeing on the ice and what we want to build. Meaning, I would look long and hard at where you are coming up with this.