Prospect Info: Cale Makar - D [4th Overall]

[SaltySkywalker]

Only been saying this for months

Yeah but you have a history of knowing nothing, so we don't really listen to you...

 

[Alex Jones]

Does that include playoffs??

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Yeah but you have a history of knowing nothing, so we don't really listen to you...

Who are you even quoting? Whoever it is I must have blocked.

 

[SaltySkywalker]

Who are you even quoting? Whoever it is I must have blocked.

Got 'em!

Man, what a loser...

 

[cgf]

I don't believe this is accurate

And this is why we pay you to sit still & be pretty, not to think ;-)

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Yeah but you have a history of knowing nothing, so we don't really listen to you...

Who are you even quoting? Whoever it is I must have blocked.

Perfect example of someone using 2 accounts, and arguing with themselves!

 

[SaltySkywalker]

Perfect example of someone using 2 accounts, and arguing with themselves!

I wish I was CE

 

[Bubba Thudd]

I wish I was CE

No you don't. You really don't.

 

[cgf]

No you don't. You really don't.

 

[cgf]

It is based in the idea that you have to be 18 to play in the NHL.

Makar doesn't get the 11 games because his waiver age is 20, Hughes gets it because his waiver age is 19 even though his signing age is 20.

The one thing that's still not clear to me is why playing for the Eagles on an ATO wouldn't count as a professional game for the purposes of banking a professional season. I've not found anything that would dispute that, so it seems to definitely be the case, but I'm not sure how the actual mechanics work there. Is that just a specific exception written into the CBA for "tryout' contracts?

 

[Barklez]

The one thing that's still not clear to me is why playing for the Eagles on an ATO wouldn't count as a professional game for the purposes of banking a professional season. I've not found anything that would dispute that, so it seems to definitely be the case, but I'm not sure how the actual mechanics work there. Is that just a specific exception written into the CBA for "tryout' contracts?

I assume it has to do with not making money and therefore retaining "amateur" status.

 

[henchman21]

The one thing that's still not clear to me is why playing for the Eagles on an ATO wouldn't count as a professional game for the purposes of banking a professional season. I've not found anything that would dispute that, so it seems to definitely be the case, but I'm not sure how the actual mechanics work there. Is that just a specific exception written into the CBA for "tryout' contracts?

An ATO a player doesn't get paid beyond basic reimbursements. A PTO allows the player to be paid ____ per game. If Makar signed for 19-20, then signs an ATO with the Eagles, it wouldn't be professional games.

 

[cgf]

I assume it has to do with not making money and therefore retaining "amateur" status.

That's my assumption; that it's just an exception written into the CBA to make those Amateur-TryOut deals not impinge on a player's amateur status...but don't they actually get paid on an AHL- or ECHL-ATO?

 

[cgf]

An ATO a player doesn't get paid beyond basic reimbursements. A PTO allows the player to be paid ____ per game. If Makar signed for 19-20, then signs an ATO with the Eagles, it wouldn't be professional games.

Ah, I was definitely mixing some of the PTO & ATO stuff up in my head then. I thought ATOs also allowed a player to get paid as long as it wasn't an emergency NHL-ATO.

 

[CalderKing21]

Because he scored a goal in his first game also assisted on one. I call it the Stanislav Chistov effect.

Sound theory.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

The one thing that's still not clear to me is why playing for the Eagles on an ATO wouldn't count as a professional game for the purposes of banking a professional season. I've not found anything that would dispute that, so it seems to definitely be the case, but I'm not sure how the actual mechanics work there. Is that just a specific exception written into the CBA for "tryout' contracts?

So can Makar sign an ATO with the AHL and play in those playoffs?

Without making him expansion draft eligible?

 

[AvsCOL]

So can Makar sign an ATO with the AHL and play in those playoffs?

Without making him expansion draft eligible?

Why would he? He has zero protection if he gets injured. If he signs, it's going to be his ELC, not a tryout.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Why would he? He has zero protection if he gets injured. If he signs, it's going to be his ELC, not a tryout.

I got no clue about how any of this works aside from the fact that taller prospects should get paid more. Since they are better.

 

[cgf]

So can Makar sign an ATO with the AHL and play in those playoffs?

Without making him expansion draft eligible?

Yep. He can even sign his ELC, as long as it's for the 2019-2020 season, before signing the ATO & joining the Eagles.

Why would he? He has zero protection if he gets injured. If he signs, it's going to be his ELC, not a tryout.

It wouldn't be an actual tryout, he would sign his ELC for next season and then get some AHL games in to better prepare himself for the summer & the season to come.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Its very difficult not to get geek'd up about this kid. Aside from his skills he seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. Anyone who has the balls to say no to Team Canada because he already gave his word to a College is alright in my books.

 

[avsfan09]

Its very difficult not to get geek'd up about this kid. Aside from his skills he seems like he has a good head on his shoulders. Anyone who has the balls to say no to Team Canada because he already gave his word to a College is alright in my books.

Also said no to Sakic offering him Elc. For a young kid being offered big money for the first time, turning down his elc and bonuses and putting off his paycheck in favor of proper development.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I got no clue about how any of this works aside from the fact that taller prospects should get paid more. Since they are better.

It's not just height, but also shoulder width. Elias Pettersson is 6'2" but weighs less than the puck. You want hefty big boys.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Also said no to Sakic offering him Elc. For a young kid being offered big money for the first time, turning down his elc and bonuses and putting off his paycheck in favor of proper development.

Hes like the Jon Snow of college hockey and Quinn Hughes is like Ramsay Bolton.

 

[The Kingslayer]

It's not just height, but also shoulder width. Elias Pettersson is 6'2" but weighs less than the puck. You want hefty big boys.

Marchand is "small" but hes built like a Sherman tank. One of the best made for hockey bodies was Claude Lemieux with those wide shoulders.

 

[HugeMetalFan]

Also said no to Sakic offering him Elc. For a young kid being offered big money for the first time, turning down his elc and bonuses and putting off his paycheck in favor of proper development.

From all the comments it seems like they agreed on at least 2 years at college and Makar kept his promise. Seems to be a very loyal kid which is great.