Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by LastWordArmy, Jun 24, 2017.
He's nowhere as good looking as Pateryn.
Im not a fan of the larva eyebrows.
Seem pretty easy to say that Fleury has more potential they might end up having the same role in the NHL but Fleury will probably establish him self earlier and probably end up playing more games just base on him being a better skater.
I always thought he was a steal at 87th overall. He played on a very bad team and that probably did not help his draft ranking. He was a -61 in his draft year . His brother was picked 7th by Carolina and I would argue Cale May become the better player.
No doubt about it, C Fleury is haveing a solid 1st year in the AHL. Kind of flying under the radar which is a good thing in terms of pressure and expectations.
Fleury is a -11 though which is 2nd last on the team. Something he needs to work at. I know there is a maturity difference but he is producing similar to Ouellet in both points production and +/-.
He also has 8 goals and 4 PPG which I like a lot.
Hayden's carreer is stagnating, drafted in 2014, he only has 5 pts in 23 games this year in the AHL...
Yeah he has stalled out for sure. He may need a change of scenery
He plays bottom pairing on the Canes and he looks alright.
Hes the fill in for injuries. Its a lot more about the Canes having a ridiculous defense.
Another goal last night
absolutly love how he read that play and that shot gave 0 chances to the goaltender! He's getting realy confident!
i realy wish Brook or Fleury (especially Brook) Pans out before Petry becomes UFA so we can trade him and refresh our prospect pool even more or trade for young LHD. lets be real here, Weber is going no where... with these kids pushing (Brook, Fleury, Juulsen) we'll need to make room for them to play quality minutes, Weber could be the Mentor!
Fleury's certainly on a roll, in his last 7 games, 4 goals, 7 pts, E, 4 pims.
Tolvanen: 12 goals and 25 pts in 49 ahl games
Fleury: 9 goals and 21 pts in 51 games
Even is nice to see. He certainly has offensive ability but needs to work at being a reliable option in his own end if he wants the trust of a NHL coach. It's only his 1st AHL season so I think it's reasonable to assume he will improve in that area.
It would be nice to see his +/- difference from the 1st half vs the 2nd half?
if you split his season in half, from the start to Jan 19th, 26 games, -6, since then 25 games, -5
overall he's been a minus player 18 games, a plus player 10 times and even 23 times.
Thanks for showing this. I have not got a chance to see him play a lot so looking forward to when I get a chance to see a solid sample size. We have to be careful with +/- but it does show you some info. Pretty sure Bouchard will work with him to get better in his own end.
We got ourselves a player with the Rocket who dabbles in player scouting. Hopefully, he's right about this particular assessment ...
All this time I thought that hyperbole was mostly an HF staple.
Who's sharing Lindgren's enthusiasm?
+/- means nothing, zero, zilch etc.
Special may be strong, but hes really, really good. Hes up there with Romanov IMO.
Man do I hope we draft another D this year. We'll be loaded with Mete, Juulsen, Brook, Romanov, Fleury, Harris!
Always nice to see later draft picks pan out renews a little bit of my hope in our scouting department.
That is BS. If you were right, they wouldn't track the stat.
Then why did the NHL stop awarding the Bud Light Plus and Minus award? Because they realized the stat was meaningless based on the winners...
The issue with +/- is how you use it. It has more value than zero. Why do coaches bench players who are on the ice when we are scored on several times in a game or in a few game sample size? This has nothing to do or is tied to +/- right? It goes deeper than just looking at the +/- but you can get value from it when you actually watch the games and look at the circumstances behind it.
Meh, it's arguably the most useless main stream stat there is. There's so many elements that need to be taken into consideration compared to other stats and in the end, it's still not an accurate representation of the situation.
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