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Kuzy and Kot should be on the same team and form a special duo. Eagle cape and Bird man.
A number of teams having him as #5 is very different from him being projected as the #3 pick.
You have to realize how much the narration changed between the season's end(When the players no longer played any games) and after Habs got #3 on the lottery. Kotkaniemi started shooting up in the rankings significantly after that lottery result - Most likely because these scouts and talking heads caught wind of Habs contemplating on picking him #3. But go ahead and take a look at the rankings before the lottery took place and see where Kotkaniemi was.
That's very different from him being projected as a #3 pick.
Zadina was the consensus #3.What was different about this draft is that there was no consensus #3. Outside of 1-2, everybody's list was different so technically, there was no reach from 3-10. If anybody reached, it was Phoenix because he wasn't in the "consensus" 3-10 group. I don't blame them, I think Hayton is a good player.
He was consensus, yet THREE teams passed over him ? Rankings don't reflect the actual lists.Zadina was the consensus #3.
Consensus doesn't mean unanimous.
Zadina was the consensus #3.
Consensus doesn't mean unanimous.
Well he was ranked 6th of European skaters by central scouting.Who rated him out of the Top-10 (end of season)?
Well he was ranked 6th of European skaters by central scouting.
2018 NHL Draft: Consolidated Industry Rankings for April 2018
Final 2018 Draft rankings: these go to 120
ISS Top 31 - Top Prospect Rankings
Im done now.
I mean you don't have to join the discussion if you don't want to. We're just talking about whether or not Kotka's hype reflects his rankings and draft position. Nobody is making you care about it.
Well he was ranked 6th of European skaters by central scouting.
2018 NHL Draft: Consolidated Industry Rankings for April 2018
Final 2018 Draft rankings: these go to 120
ISS Top 31 - Top Prospect Rankings
Im done now.
What exactly is childish about answering someones question with pristine accuracy?He's right though...who gives a flying **** about his ranking. Go spam in another thread, this is about Kotkaniemi not debating which draft rankings is the most accurate.
You're clogging this up and making people read this stupid childish **** you guys are spewing when they came to read about Kotkaniemi.
Well, using @manny_hockey's league conversion factors(like NHLe), I'll check how Kotkaniemi compares to the top 5 forwards picked:
Andrei Svechnikov: 20.8p in 82 games
Jesperi Kotkaniemi: 19.6p in 82 games
Filip Zadina: 18.6p in 82 games
Brady Tkachuk: 10.9p in 82 games
Barrett Hayton: 12.3p in 82 games
So in that light Kotkaniemi's draft season should have been the best(at that draft slot), using his NHL conversion factors.
Well, I had the twitter handle in the post but...Where did you get the league conversion factors? curious to see it.
Well, I had the twitter handle in the post but...
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Unfortunately those conversions are crazy flawed and virtually meaningless. If this was an exact science... scouts wouldn't be needed.Well, using @manny_hockey's league conversion factors(like NHLe), I'll check how Kotkaniemi compares to the top 5 forwards picked:
Andrei Svechnikov: 20.8p in 82 games
Jesperi Kotkaniemi: 19.6p in 82 games
Filip Zadina: 18.6p in 82 games
Brady Tkachuk: 10.9p in 82 games
Barrett Hayton: 12.3p in 82 games
So in that light Kotkaniemi's draft season should have been the best(at that draft slot), using his NHL conversion factors.
Well, using @manny_hockey's league conversion factors(like NHLe), I'll check how Kotkaniemi compares to the top 5 forwards picked:
Andrei Svechnikov: 20.8p in 82 games
Jesperi Kotkaniemi: 19.6p in 82 games
Filip Zadina: 18.6p in 82 games
Brady Tkachuk: 10.9p in 82 games
Barrett Hayton: 12.3p in 82 games
So in that light Kotkaniemi's draft season should have been the best(at that draft slot), using his NHL conversion factors.
If he keeps this up I can see him fall into the top 10. Exciting player
Kotka ranked #2 forward here:
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/nhl-draft-software-final-rankings-updated.2506843/
More than a year before the draft. Good call.
Thanks, but for every good call there is bad call