C Quinton Byfield (2020, 2nd, LAK) part III

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Yeah with no checking in the OHL this season it going to hurt a lot of these young men development. Since I’m a new hockey fan I could be wrong. If this is the case it wouldn’t shock me if the Kings send QB to the DEL this season.
 

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Yeah with no checking in the OHL this season it going to hurt a lot of these young men development. Since I’m a new hockey fan I could be wrong. If this is the case it wouldn’t shock me if the Kings send QB to the DEL this season.
You aren't wrong. Especially a bigger guy like Byfield .


It'll hurt the Kaliyev's of the world as well because they will develop a false sense of security and get rek'd later
 

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Desjardins had a look at CHL player production at age 22 in NHL.
He was able to identify performance curves ( ranges that show how draft yr and draft +1 yr production Translates to nhl based on age.
Each yr has a base level of performance based on sept 16 birth date .
With expected in crease in production the further ( younger ) they are from sept 16 (1/365) to sept 15 365/365.
Draft yr (17) is .50 base + (x/365 x .25)
Draft +1 yr (18) .40 base + (x/365 x .10)

many know that I created the theories that most hockey analytics is based on. Things like HD danger shot density area. ( homeplate)
I further looked into draft -1 (16) and draft +2, (19) draft +3 (20)
Age translation (success):
Draft -1: .75 base + (x/365 x .25); .75 to 1.00
Draft: .50 base + (x/365 x .25); .50 to .75
Draft +1 .40 base + (x/365 x .10); .40 to .75
Draft +2 .35 base + (x/365 x .05); .35 to .40
Draft +3 .32 base + (x/365 x .03); .32 to .35

a 16 yr old getting 1 Ppg in a season is far superior than a 20 yr old getting 1.00 ppg in chl.

Q. Byfield
.50 + (288/365 X .25) = .697 translation.
45gm 32g 82P = 82/45 = 1.8222
1.8222 x .697 = 1.270 x 82 nhl gm = 104 xNHLP

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.50 + (26/365 x .25) = .518
52gm 35g 112P = 112/52 = 2.154
2.154 x .518 = 1.116 x82gm = 91-92 xHLP

this allows identification of players like debrincitt #39 rd2 2016
.50 + (94/365 x .25) = .564
60gm 50g 101P = 101/60 = 1.6833
1.6833 x .564 = .949 x 82 = 78 xNHLP

top CHL/cdn tier 2 (AJHL, BCHL, etc.) NHLE 2020 draft.
104 xPT byfield #2 LAK
91 xPT lafreniere #1 NYR
89 xPT Rossi #9 MIN
86 xPT Perfetti #10 WPG
82 xPT Jarvis #13 CAR
71 xPT Chromiak RD 5 #128 LAK,
69 xPT bourque #30 DAL
65 xPT Holloway draft-1 in AJHL #14 EDM,
65 xPT Perreault #27 ANA
65 xPT Lapierre #22 WSH
64 xPT Grieg #28 OTT
62 xPT Forester #23 PHI
62 xPT Mercer #18 NJD
62 xPT Zary #24 CGY
59 xPT Quinn Rd 1 #8 BUF
58 xPT Vierling RD 5 #127 NYR
57 xPT Finley RD 2 #57 TMP
57xPT Nieghbors #26 STL
57 xPT Weisblatt #31 SJS
56xPT Savoie RD 4 #100 EDM
56xPT Tullio RD 5 #126 EDM
56xPT Sokolov RD 2 #61 OTT
55 xPT Wisdom RD 4 #94 PHI
54 xPT Francis RD 5 #143 CGY

Just the math side of league age translation for prospects.
But if The mechanics (human Machine action) are their it is a great sign.
 
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Nothing has been confirmed about the body checking. All that was said was the health minister like a month ago claimed there would have to be no hitting for it to come back. But the OHL is in talks with the government to work something out.

Edit: Now a minister is saying it's banned.
 
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When will Byfield make an impact at camp?

Byfield not making an impact so far in Team Canada scrimmages....

Hopefully he gets his footing. We need him.

It's REALLY hard to listen to Craig Button for an extended period time...or even two minutes. As for Byfield, I'm curious what kind of impact he's going to have at this tournament. There's this lingering assumption among some fans that bigger guys can just impose their will on the game, even at the junior level and that's not the case. Different class of prospect but as an American fan I think back to Logan Brown. All of the size/tools in the world but never set the world on fire at the WJC level. He's a guy that is going to require a lot of patience to develop into a quality pro.
 
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I think Byfield will be a flop at the NHL level. He's a big man with slow feet that only scores in transition.
 

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I've been pretty vocal about thinking Byfield wouldn't have been a top 3 prospect if he were 3 inches shorter, but even I think this is ridiculous. The kid's got wheels. That's how he scores in transition so much.
Slow feet means he's slow in tight spaces....not that he skates slow up the ice. my bad
 

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This week in a nutshell

Canada Coaches, players: "wow, Quinton Byfield huh? Love his intensity. NHL shot. Man among boys."

24 hours.

Craig Button: "When is Quinton Byfield going to show up?"
Classic Craig lol.

From what I've heard, Byfield has been great at the camp.
 

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Classic Craig lol.

From what I've heard, Byfield has been great at the camp.

Yeah, I think it's fair to apply the usual "leaves you wanting more" tag but it's relative to Dach and Byram who of course are older and Kirby has a whole load of NHL experience. Acting as if he's done nothing is clickbait. Hell even in the article's associated video it shows he's inches away from having the completely opposite narrative. To say nothing of it being more than a little dishonest to compare him to Dach at this point.
 
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Yeah, I think it's fair to apply the usual "leaves you wanting more" tag but it's relative to Dach and Byram who of course are older and Kirby has a whole load of NHL experience. Acting as if he's done nothing is clickbait. Hell even in the article's associated video it shows he's inches away from having the completely opposite narrative. To say nothing of it being more than a little dishonest to compare him to Dach at this point.

Dach = 20 months older than Byfield even though they are only 1 draft year apart . Dach last played on Aug 18 , Byfield on March 8 (5 full months ) . Dach was allowed to participate in all early practices , Byfield missed early practices because of Covid concerns .
 
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I think Quinton will be fine. He should be ready for a full time role with the Kings next year.

I think that would be a massive mistake if he stays with the Kings for this upcoming season.

He has a lot of immaturity in his game. Superstar potential but he needs to not be rushed. Doing so may damage his development significantly.
 

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I don't think he was bad, he definitely wasn't great either. Showed flashes here and there of the potential to dominate but couldn't sustain it. The end of the day it was two scrimmage games, it isn't the end of the world. He does need to be a dominate player in this tournament though, it has to click at some point along the way. There are really no excuses for it not to.
 

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I think that would be a massive mistake if he stays with the Kings for this upcoming season.

He has a lot of immaturity in his game. Superstar potential but he needs to not be rushed. Doing so may damage his development significantly.
Not this upcoming season but the next season. I don’t believe he is ready for a full time in 2021.
 
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I think that would be a massive mistake if he stays with the Kings for this upcoming season.

He has a lot of immaturity in his game. Superstar potential but he needs to not be rushed. Doing so may damage his development significantly.


Blake and Byfield separately have all but confirmed he will not be playing in the NHL this year.
 
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I don't think he was bad, he definitely wasn't great either. Showed flashes here and there of the potential to dominate but couldn't sustain it. The end of the day it was two scrimmage games, it isn't the end of the world. He does need to be a dominate player in this tournament though, it has to click at some point along the way. There are really no excuses for it not to.

There is an excuse this year, notably the fact that he hasn't played any games this year. I know most of the others in the camp haven't as well but it will affect everyone differently
 

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There is an excuse this year, notably the fact that he hasn't played any games this year. I know most of the others in the camp haven't as well but it will affect everyone differently
No that really isn't an excuse. He has to be one of the best players on Team Canada. That has nothing to do with the other teams. Playing in the tournament as the 2nd overall pick from the previous year kinda has to come with the expectations that you aren't just there. I really don't think that is setting unrealistic expectations at all.
 

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Went back and watched Canada's first scrimmage.

Byfield looked great. Whenever he was on the ice his team had the puck in team White's zone. Really seemed to be the one driving the play on his line as well. I think being able to play this natural position this WJC will really help.
 
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