C Barrett Hayton (2018, 5th, ARZ)

[Tatar Shots]

For me it's gotta be Kotkaniemi, I think he has much higher offensive potential and is going to put up huge numbers next year. I'm really excited to see what Hayton can do this upcoming season though, if he can produce offense at the same rate as other recent OHL first rounders like Frost, Thomas, or Vilardi it'll be hard to choose between the two. I might even take Hayton due to his proficiency on the defensive side of the game; anyone compared to Bergeron isn't someone you want to pass on.

The media compares kids every year to Bergeron. It’s the laziest comparison the hockey media makes.

 

[Dominance]

The media compares kids every year to Bergeron. It’s the laziest comparison the hockey media makes.

Karlsson is far, far more over- and mis-used.

 

[93LEAFS]

Karlsson is far, far more over- and mis-used.

A bunch are commonly used. I've seen a few Kopitar's over the year (Matthews, Barkov, Galchenyuk, Kotkaniemi), the Bergeron's I remember are Hayton and previously Horvat. You also see Toews used fairly often such as Jost and Monahan.

Generally, stylistic comparisons are overly simplistic once you dig past the surface level. The Karlsson one is often misused though.

 

[Matias Maccete]

How's Captain Premium looked in the games the last few days?

 

[CraigBillington]

Karlsson is far, far more over- and mis-used.

Have you seen the latest in Swedish defensemen? They're all Karlsson

 

[theVladiator]

How's Captain Premium looked in the games the last few days?

I wasn't a big fan of Hayton before the draft, and he did little to change that. Still has those stiff back, short stride skating bouts that give me Cody Hodgson flashbacks. Looked small-ish. I think Hayton strength is his stick work. I remember him having a very good defensive play, robbing a Swedish player of the puck cleanly with his stick. Also rang one off the post (Entwistle buried the rebound). Played well, but did not stand out the way you might expect a top 5 pick to. I'd say Entwistle was a more noticeable guy on that line (Dewar-Hayton-Entwistle), but of course he's a year older.

Read as much as you want into a one summer game report from a skeptic

 

[PuckLife]

How's Captain Premium looked in the games the last few days?

He’s looked great. Strong on the faceoffs, stripping pucks, crashing the net, lots of good scoring chances. He scored on a beauty tip in game 1 and had an assist in the second. One of the only guys on both pp and pk.

 

[lawrence]

whats the update on him at this training camp?

 

[Tryamkin]

whats the update on him at this training camp?

Played two games, 15 mins in each. No points, had a shot and a hit in one game and was a -1. Really nothing notable at all, except I believe he was above 50% on face offs which is quite good? Didn’t really stand out.

 

[Plub]

whats the update on him at this training camp?

Nothing notable. Hasn't really impressed in any way outside of faceoffs. He isn't Zadina.

 

[boredmale]

Nothing notable. Hasn't really impressed in any way outside of faceoffs. He isn't Zadina.

Hayton has the upside of somebody like Ryan O"reilly but if he doesn't reach that level it's going to be hard looking back at that pick given I think there is a few guys taken after him who might end up star players in the NHL

 

[XX]

whats the update on him at this training camp?

Mediocre, even in prospect camp. Hasn't flashed much actual raw talent and his drive leaves something to be desired for a 'character' pick.

That said, he's young and will get better. Just not much shown for a top five pick so far.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Yeah I would have expected more from a top-5 pick but it's early.

 

[Icebreakers]

Hayton is obviously a longer term pick. Horvat really didn't show much his first training camp either. I'd be worried if he doesn't see a huge jump in production though.


Zadina is a year older and much more developed. It's unfair to compare them now.

 

[haulinbass]

Hayton is obviously a longer term pick. Horvat really didn't show much his first training camp either. I'd be worried if he doesn't see a huge jump in production though.


Zadina is a year older and much more developed. It's unfair to compare them now.

A year older huh....

 

[lawrence]

Hayton is obviously a longer term pick. Horvat really didn't show much his first training camp either. I'd be worried if he doesn't see a huge jump in production though.


Zadina is a year older and much more developed. It's unfair to compare them now.

he's less then 7 months older.

Horvat really didn't show much his first training camp either.

Horvat really didn't show much his first training camp either.

not doing any comparisons but Horvat looked good, despite everyone knowing he will return to London. Shinkaruk sucked.

 

[Icebreakers]

he's less then 7 months older.

He has played one year of hockey more than Hayton. That's a difference.

 

[lawrence]

He has played one year of hockey more than Hayton. That's a difference.

Barrett Hayton hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

Filip Zadina hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

sure thing.

 

[haulinbass]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Look, I don't want to hijack the Hayton thread... But the difference actually is quite simply that Zadina is the better prospect and 30 other teams in Arizona's position would have taken Zadina at 5. I'm not saying Hayton can't become a good player and good pick, but at this point there isn't anything real to justify taking him at 5. If Hayton grows into a top 5 player in this draft, it had nothing to do with what anyone could have predicted today.

 

[Icebreakers]

Barrett Hayton hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

Filip Zadina hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

sure thing.

You do know that you play in your age bracket. He's born in 1999 and he's played hockey more than Hayton. Just like if you're a late birthday you have 3 years of OHL hockey compared to 2 before your draft.


Zadina has 1 year of WJC eligibility left. Hayton has 2. If Zadina was Canadian he would have 1 year of CHL eligibility left (not including overage) , Hayton has 2

 

[Critical13]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Look, I don't want to hijack the Hayton thread... But the difference actually is quite simply that Zadina is the better prospect and 30 other teams in Arizona's position would have taken Zadina at 5. I'm not saying Hayton can't become a good player and good pick, but at this point there isn't anything real to justify taking him at 5. If Hayton grows into a top 5 player in this draft, it had nothing to do with what anyone could have predicted today.

Can I have access to the link you have to the minds of all the scouts in the league?

 

[Critical13]

Barrett Hayton hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

Filip Zadina hockey statistics and profile at hockeydb.com

sure thing.

I don't think you understand...might be best just to leave the thread now and save some face.

 

[haulinbass]

Can I have access to the link you have to the minds of all the scouts in the league?

Its all phone numbers and emails bud. Don't think they would appreciate me handing that info out to a casual hockey fan..

 

[lawrence]

I don't think you understand...might be best just to leave the thread now and save some face.

smart mouth say what? ok, explain to me then.

 

[lawrence]

Its all phone numbers and emails bud. Don't think they would appreciate me handing that info out to a casual hockey fan..

It's quite funny, it's not like I am trying to slam this guy or anything, more or less scouting up team Canada roster for December, if Vancouver made the same move at 5, his fan base would be all over it, non stop. Now he's playing hero. hfboards never change.