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  1. Chuckalinsky

    Chuckalinsky Registered User

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    It seems that on this board, every prospect is going to be unreal. But that's not what the past tells us. According to history, only like 10 percent or less of players drafted turn out to be regular NHLers and even lower turn out to be superstars. So some of these guys are guaranteed not to turn out. In fact, a lot of them. So who are your picks to be flops or busts from recent drafts gone by.
     
  2. Chaos

    Chaos And the winner is...

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    Just my personal opinion:

    2002:

    Taticek
    Niinimaki
    Vagner


    2003(1st and early 2nd round only):

    Kostitsyn
    Nilsson
    Parise-Not really a bust, but I dont think he'll be quite as good as NJ fans think
    Polak

    2004:

    Ladd
    Valabik
    Schremp
     
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    I see we already have PROSPECTIVE Busts in the list... interesting..dont know about that...

    For me off the top of my head... Michael Henrich, Oilers from Barrie Colts. Henrich was a speedster with finish off the wing in the OHL and was, if I remember correctly, very hyped coming out of his draft year - I am of the understanding now he is a fringe-prospect with a limited window with the Oilers, and that he was considered a top-flite prospect.

    When I saw the thread I thought it was open to all considerants and I was like, yeah, I'll be the first one to say Brian Lawton ! :joker: But hey, he made a go as a player agent.
     
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    Still early to tell that...Kostitsyn and Parise just sign their first pro contract and they will both play either in the NHL or the AHL. After their first pro season, the talk Bust or Not? will be able to start...

    And if I say your 2003 choices are to early, imagine for your 2004 choices...
     
  5. Chaos

    Chaos And the winner is...

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    The guy asked our picks to be flops/busts from recent drafts, meaning who we think wont turn out, not who already has...thats all I did...its just an opinion....
     
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    Rico Fata

    Is Rico Fata a bust? I know to Flames fans yes, but what did everyone expect from him 100pt seasons? I watched him in London and he was the fastest player in the league but "limited hockey sense".

    What do you see of him for the future with Pens or anyone else? I'd say 40-50pts at tops now and probably a 3rd line player with 30pts or so.
     
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    Yeah, you're right...my mistake. I guess it's because I saw Kostistyn name in your post :D

    He will not be a bust but don't mark my word ;)
     
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    We dont need to you wrote it down yourself. :)
     
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    2003:
    Jessiman

    2004:
    hmm... Wheeler? (well, not really a bust, but a VERY confusing pick)
     
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  11. CH Wizard

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    2003

    Jessiman
    Nilsson

    2004
    Wheeler
    Shremp
    Valabik
    Korpikoski
     
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    I agree w/ Valabik, he's a terrible skater and NO hockey sense. Won't even make it to NHL. Wheeler, Schremp could end up being busts but too early to tell.
     
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    Well as long as everyone is wildly predicting busts way before anything is proved then I vote for Crosby.
    I predict that right after he signs the biggest rookie contract ever he will be taking out the garbage and just as he puts down the bag at the street he will be crushed by yet another NASA probe shute failure incedent.
     
  14. se7en*

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    To the ones who listed Schremp - may I ask why? It's just too easy to write a list based on some tidbit you read somewhere, and I'm just curious.

    Is it his 'attitude problems'? :)
     
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    On what basis is Korpikoski gonna be a bust. He is probably one of the "sure things" in the draft. His potential is 1-2 line forward but if he is overrated he'll be a fast checkin forward.

    Jessiman will either bust or be the best PF in the league.
     
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    There's no such thing as "sure things" in any entry draft. Korpikoski is far from being considered a sure thing, as he literally came from now where and if not for a good U-18, not many would be so high on him, as he has not done much in the Finnish junior league. I can't say too much since I only saw 1 sm-liiga game and 3 wjc games, but if he was such a sure thing, I would expect him to be on the U-20 team where Tukonen was.

    As for Jessiman, "the best PF in the league"? wow, if that's going to be the case, he's got a ways to go. I am a big ECAC fan, and while I'm now a Dartmouth fan for the next few years, I'd be shocked if he is the best of anything in the future. I think he's a quality prospect and should be a good NHLer, but best PF is a bold, bold statement imo. (but I'm also pissed he's going back to Dartmouth as it will cut down the ice time of their 2 incoming freshmen RW's)
     
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    Jessiman is a good call, as he is either going to be an amazing player or not even a NHL regular. Classic high risk / high reward.

    Not mentioned yet:
    Mikko Koivu
    RJ Umberger
     
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    Just to clear confusion, I am not asking who you think is already a bust. Just opinions on who you think will be. For me I think that a majority of the 2004 draft class won't turn out as highly regarded as they are on this board. (See 1999) I can see Ladd, Wheeler, Picard, Tukenon, Schremp not reaching their "potential." Bold statement I know, but in 5 years we'll see.
     
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    count me as one who thinks tukonen is gonna dissapoint somewhat...at the 11th spot, he was a good pick but people were talking him up as the 3rd best player in the draft going in, just behind ovechkin and malkin.

    probably won't be a classic "bust"...seems to have enough skills and abilities to eventually play in the NHL, but i don't think he's gonna be a top line scorer or something.

    wheeler has pretty big bust potential compared to his draft status...but in a weak draft it probably wasn't such a HUGE reach
     
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    All time Biggest bust... CRAIG HILLIER
     
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    Tukonen is projected to be a three way player, so Kings fans aren't really expecting him to be a top scorer. Likewise, I find it hard to label known high risks (Jessiman, Wheeler) as "busts." I consider a bust to be a player where people have high expectations of them panning out.

    I'll go off the radar and say Barker busts. He's not hyped as the second coming, but I don't think he'll be nearly as productive offensively.
     
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    Anyone remember Dave Chizowski picked after I think Sundin in the 89 'draft? Man, that was a hell of a bust. I would go out and say Eric Nystrom and Ryan Whitney. There's something wrong with them. Although I'm high on him (and biased), Kostsitsyn looks set for an uphill battle.I don't think Ladd will bust but I certainly don't think he's first line material, 2nd line maybe.
     
  23. Prucha73

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    2004 is considered a weak draft.

    busts:

    2001:

    Steckel, Umberger, Novotny, Foster, Armstrong, Knyazev, Karlsson, Chistov

    2002:

    Taticek, Nystrom, Klepis, Eager, Bergenheim, Johansson

    2003:

    Nilsson, Boyle, Tambellini
     
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    Taticek and Bryzgalov.

    I think Staal will not turn out to be what most people think either. He will be good but not great! Another guy is Semin, I just don't see him being nothing but a 40 point man.
     
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    Brian Boyle in 2003, drafted on hype and size alone.
     
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