Recalled/Assigned: Burmistrov on waivers.

[robertocarlos]

Waiving Burmi is best for him. He gets a fresh start with another team. If he rocks the AHL then next year some NHL team will take a chance.

 

[10Ducky10]

Waiving Burmi is best for him. He gets a fresh start with another team. If he rocks the AHL then next year some NHL team will take a chance.

What AHL team?

 

[sipowicz]

That's a pretty long limb you went out on there Uncle Sip.

Bold call

Except that old uncle Sip called for Burmi to go on Waivers way back in 2013

 

[garret9]

Except that old uncle Sip called for Burmi to go on Waivers way back in 2013

Burmi 2013 != Burmi now

 

[robertocarlos]

What AHL team?

The Moose. He has to report.

 

[10Ducky10]

The Moose. He has to report.

Good luck with that! He has a half a season of North American hockey left.

 

[Arthur Fonzarelli]

what ahl team?

echl?

 

[robertocarlos]

echl?

Tulsa time. That would be awesome. He would have to buy lunch once in a while, just because.

 

[Guardian17]

Dudley was high on him for some reason. As I recall he was viewed as more of a complete two-way forward who had a lot more to contribute that just offensive prowess (which obviously didn't translate at the NHL level). Other than Burmistrov, Dudley did a good job in a short time, but that was his biggest fail.



Kane and Bogo were pretty much ranked right where they were drafted (Burmi was drafted earlier than expected) but both were rushed, especially Bogo.

Burmi was a bit of reach but not nearly even on Scheifele level nevermind Morrissey level. He was a guy that was quite exciting in the junior game, he had fantastic hands. Nifty skater with great hands and a responsible two way player, many viewed him as Datsyuk lite.

See some draft preview stuff.
http://thehockeywriters.com/the-hockey-spy%E2%80%99s-2010-nhl-entry-draft-preview-%E2%80%93-alexander-burmistrov/


http://www2.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=39853


http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=62937


http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=62943


Remember too that Burmistrov had an electric rookie season. A PK beast that often showed off fantastic hands, after his rookie year he really did look like he had near Datsyuk like potential.

I wasn't paying attention to the Thrashers in 2010 so I appreciate your responses.

Thank you!

 

[nobody important]

What's interesting is that it happened near the middle of his KHL.

He was good in his first season in the KHL.
In his second season he was not.

Wonder what happened...

Edit: Can almost see where the descent began...

Did it coincide with his chat with Maurice?

 

[garret9]

Did it coincide with his chat with Maurice?

That is around the same time, yes.

I'm out now, but I had estimated relCorsi for KHL and it is a similar curve too, although his 2013 looks better and 2015 looks worse.

 

[nobody important]

That is around the same time, yes.

I'm out now, but I had estimated relCorsi for KHL and it is a similar curve too, although his 2013 looks better and 2015 looks worse.

Interesting. Could Maurice have made some suggestions to Burmi as to changes he needed to make in his game to get back to the NHL? Purely speculation, but the more time Burmi spends under Maurice's influence, the worse he seems to get.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Quality of teammates likely playing a role as he has seen more bottom 6 and less middle six time.

 

[JetsFan815]

Interesting. Could Maurice have made some suggestions to Burmi as to changes he needed to make in his game to get back to the NHL? Purely speculation, but the more time Burmi spends under Maurice's influence, the worse he seems to get.

So in a 1 hr conversation, Maurice ruined Burmi's entire career? Come on now.

 

[10Ducky10]

Quality of teammates likely playing a role as he has seen more bottom 6 and less middle six time.

Likely but not as likely as his own play...

 

[Gil Fisher]

Likely but not as likely as his own play...

true. but no one can overcome the power of thor.

 

[razorsedge]

Good bye Burmi. You actually were my favorite player in season 1 of the return and had expected a solid career from you.

 

[garret9]

I think Maurice could potentially be a variable, but I would be highly skeptical he is the cause.

QoT is definitely a factor, because Burmistrov went from being a guy mostly with Kane, Welly, and Antro to a guy mostly with Stafford, Thorburn, and Lowry. However, it's not the cause either, as even when he used to spend time on the 4th line they would do relatively better with than without.

Could be many things: effort, substances, weird age curve, environment, mental, effort... or combination of many.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I think Maurice could potentially be a variable, but I would be highly skeptical he is the cause.

QoT is definitely a factor, because Burmistrov went from being a guy mostly with Kane, Welly, and Antro to a guy mostly with Stafford, Thorburn, and Lowry. However, it's not the cause either, as even when he used to spend time on the 4th line they would do relatively better with than without.

Could be many things: effort, substances, weird age curve, environment, mental, effort... or combination of many.

on the intangible side, he strikes me as a guy who just isn't enjoying hockey any more

 

[sipowicz]

Did anyone claim Burmi?

 

[Gil Fisher]

Did anyone claim Burmi?

find out by 11am tomorrow

 

[MrBoJangelz71]

Bumistrov on waivers? Shocking. [/sarcasm]

His play has always reminded me of the kid that got promoted from the community club scrub team up to AAA, a player that looked good in an unstructured environment but has essentially no idea of how to play a team game when it matters. He got by on talent; to say his game lacks structure is a gigantic understatement. Atlanta made a massive mistake by promoting him to the NHL sans any AHL time. Winnipeg made an even larger mistake by bringing him back from Russia a few years ago.

Agree with you on everything except it being a larger mistake bringing him back.

It was a low risk move bringing him back, well worth it to take one more look at an asset before cutting bait.
He was young enough to still have hope that it would click for him after his stint in the K, with a bit of maturity and understanding of what he needed to be as a player.

It didn't work out, but I wouldn't classify it as a large mistake.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Except that old uncle Sip called for Burmi to go on Waivers way back in 2013

Yah but, Sip .... you have disliked all the players at one time or another.

 

[Polar Vortex]

Wouldn't be surprised if TB claimed him tbh

 

[Do or Die]

Way back when....Claude Noel was supposedly the problem......now years later it is Maruice?.....

Seems this excusemeistering for Burmi, never stops. It should. This organization has wasted far more than enough time on this guy.

He can be some other teams pet project.