Discussion in 'Ottawa Senators' started by Variable26, Jul 21, 2019.
He could have walked away from 6million+ from the Senators... he should still be in the hall.
Not all that surprising, but the Athletic did it's Front office Confidence article, and the Sens did not fair well...
It's behind a Paywall but you can install the app on your phone and get 3 free articles a month if you want to try it out before shelling out the big bucks:
NHL front office confidence rankings: Fans weigh in on how...
Leafs - 2
Jets - 4
Flames - 21
Canucks - 28
Oilers - 29
Habs - 30
Sens - 31
It's fan voted so clearly Ottawa was not going to do well at all.
Habs 30?? Wow!
See how they treated Markov this week...
All the Canadian teams save TO and Wpg do poorly.
I do find TO being so high a little off; they have done some things well and others not so much, I don't think they are run poorly per say but they have definitely made some missteps along the way.
Do we even qualify as having a "front office" at this point?
By my account it appears to be Dorion, his assistant GM we've basically never heard from or seen his "contract specialist" skills put to work, and the owner. Am I missing anyone?
The website lists Allison Vaughn as the Manager of Hockey Administration, not sure what that means, but she's apparently been there since the start 27 years ago.
Reading the news of the new Islander arena and appreciating that it's taken the new owners 5 years to get to this point...yippee, Melnyk cannot sell quickly enough.
Ya everyone has one of those relationships where stay with someone for a lot longer then they should.
They usually don't last 27 years.
Hockey Administration = Admin = Secretary.
Wow because she identifies as female you refer to her as a secretary, that's sexist man.
Secretary is non-gender, Holmes.
I would like to show you an example here...
The word "secretary" is pretty dead in most office spaces though, due to the fact that it's developed pejorative & sexist connotation / association to it.
The preferred nomenclature is "admin assistant".
If she identified as a secretary on the website next to her name it would say secretary she clearly identifies as Manager of Hockey Administration
Secretary is still used and only considered derogatory by some...
So... For whatever it is worth, her bio seems to indicate its more of an office manager role than a secretarial role
Anecdotally, I haven't met an admin assistant in the past decade who liked to be called "secretary". Every time it's ever come up in any of my work places or workplaces of colleagues & friends, or even in stories from colleagues & friends, it made their blood boil and pretty much ruined their day. And in the cases that it didn't, it just made the person using the term look antequated and out of touch.
I'm just saying... It's a far more archaic term than you think. Some offices still use it, but there are fewer and fewer every year. There's been huge efforts to bury "secretary" as an official job title. We don't celebrate "secretarys day" anymore, it's now "Administrative Professionals Day" (which is a silly Hallmark holliday invented to sell stupid cards and kitchy garbage, but for the record, it's April 22 and a real thing). The skill level in general for admin assistants has increased since the days of secretaries.
I'm not trying to pick on you here. I'm just trying to point out that maybe your perception on the term is a bit more outdated than you think, and maybe now is as good a time as any to make the change, that's all.
Just becasue some people still use it, doesn't mean it's not on the way out. Stewardesses are now Flight Attendants. Beauticians are now Stylists. Waitresses are now Servers. This is just how these things change.
Secretary is not always bad. The Secretary of State is one of the highest positions in the US for foreign affairs. I guess they could change it to the Admin Assistant of State to be more politically correct.
Thread name should be changed to
"Lies and Incompetence: The Melnyk and Dorion saga continues"
Current title attempts to shift blame on to players, when the issue with the Sens is now crystal clear for all to see.
Thread is named after an article in the OP. If you don't like the title you can take it up with Colin Horgan over at The Guardian...
Yeah changing of the language is silly. Adding more syllables to a title or term doesn't change what it is, just makes it sound fancier and different.
There are shades of orwellian New Speak in the PC movement.
The thread was purportedly intended to be a place for Sens fans to vent their frustration with Sens management and ownership.
The fact that the OP chose to highlight an article that pushes the blame onto the players is the issue.
Looks like the “vocal minority” stuffed the ballot box...
"Shades of Orwellian New Speak"
"The PC movement"
... kind of hyperbolic, man. Language just changes. If it didn't, we'd still be calling pants "brec", clouds "sceos", and roosters "hanas". You also don't call bundles of sticks... well, I can't type it here, but every schoolyard student knows that one.
It's one thing of accusing something of being too PC, that I get and some stuff gets silly for sure. Snd there's definitely double-speak in our society - legalese and medical jargon being a prime example at times. But language has evolved for thousands of years.
Sure, but ignoring the driving forces behind the changes being foisted on society makes little sense to me.
There is an element of social engineering that is undeniable. Most language change over history happened more naturally.
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