GDT: Bulldogs are leading 2-0 edition

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  1. dackelljuneaubulis02

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    yeah seriously. People are way too hung up on that. Dumont is strong and stocky. He'll be fine.
     
  2. habsprospects

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    Sounds like there is an intruder in your list.
     
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    He'll be fine in the AHL. He is a slower grittier version of Tom Pyatt.
     
  5. dackelljuneaubulis02

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    Hahaha. Just so you know I was totally joking when I posted that originally.
     
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    My sarcasm detector is acting up again.....
     
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    Dumont was great last night, love that he is always in front of the net creating chaos, kid will be in our lineup in the future
     
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    If he has grit, then he's no Tom Pyatt.
     
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    Pyatt wasn't soft by any means....just too small and weak to inflict any punishment. It is a moot point in the end as any team that has either Pyatt or Dumont in their lineup have no chance of winning a cup.
     
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    I always laugh at statements like these. Teams have won cups with equivalent or worse players before, you could replace one of the worst players on any recent cup winners with Dumont and they would likely win anyways. Besides we don't know yet what Dumont can do at the NHL level so its unfair to judge him too fast, especially since he's exceeded expectations so far.

    Pyatt was still a good defensive forward, if Dumont is anything like him with a little more offense and a lot more grit then he should be a decent 4th liner.
     
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    Perhaps I overstated my point a little......

    The point that I was trying to make is generally if one of these players is a regular in your lineup then you are in trouble. It is hard to say that Dumont is better than players who were regulars on a Cup winning team when he has yet to even make the NHL. IMO Dumont is going to be primarily a career AHLer.

    What makes me laugh is when a grinder like Dumont has a big game in the AHL this board is flooded with over exuberant posts about his potential. I love his work ethic and attitude but he doesn't have the size/skill/speed to be a quality NHLer.
     
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    Max Talbot and Steve Bégin are both bottom six players under 6 foot I'd go to war with (Bégin in his prime)... Pyatt was as soft and weak as Palushaj ! + he had no IQ, although he was good on the PK, thanks to Gill.
     
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    Talbot and Begin are significantly bigger and stronger than Dumont.

    As for Pyatt, he went to the dirty areas and took his lumps. Soft players stay away from these areas. Just because a player doesn't throw many bodychecks doesn't make him soft. If Dumont could skate like Pyatt then this would be a very different conversation but alas.......he can't.
     
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    Max Talbot is 5'11. Bégin is listed at 6'0 but really isnt. Dumont at 5'10 is bulkier than Talbot, as a 22 year old.

    As of Pyatt, he always lost puck battles. If he had Dumont's tenacity and courage... and skills.

    The main thing is that Dumont isn't a chicken head like Pyatt is. Pyatt never had the toolbox Dumont has.
     
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    Talbot is bulkier and much stronger than Dumont. Funny how you say that Begin isn't 6'0 but leave out the fact that Dumont is very generously listed at 5'10. The listings for these players are often ridiculous as the announcers last night said Dumont is 5'9 175 lbs which is in stark contrast with his listed stats.

    If Pyatt was as physical as Dumont and Dumont was as fast as Pyatt..........the Wizard of Oz could magically make them quality NHLers.
     
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    Dumont is listed at 5'10, 186. Talbot as 5'11, 185. Dumont is 6 years younger... Let's see what happens next training camp. Dumont isn't any slower than Leblanc... 2013-2014 will be his year.

    PS, Pyatt sucks, and always will be a fringe warm body with no brains.
     
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    Pyatt was DEFINITELY not soft, just not very strong physically despite being 6'. He would get run over but still go back, that's the opposite of soft. He was also a very smart player, just didn't have great hands.
     
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    Dumont has a much better shot than Pyatt.
     
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    Pyatt was smart defensively. Offensively the kid crested the puck from the far boards everytime he had it.
     
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    IMO Bournival is more like Pyatt than Dumont.
     
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    Pyatt had more goals thans 90% of our team last year :laugh:

    I can't believe that assist still wasn't given to Bourival yet. :laugh:
     
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    Dumont has a way to go before we can compare him to Pyatt. Pyatt is already an experienced nhler who's improved every year. He gets tough assignments as a defensive specialist and scored 12 goals last season. Right now Pyatt is the better player until Dumont can show that he can do the same.
     
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    Pyatt is soft
     
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    ...and Hagel is not, but who does more to help his team win games?
     
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    None of the above :laugh:

    Anyways it was a crappy comparison to begin with. What's next? Lucic is Pyatt except he's 6'4, fights and and scores 30 goals? Comon..
     
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