Building Through Trades - Can It Work?

[PuckSeparator]

Marc Bergevin has traded away some pretty significant players drafted by the Habs in recent years - PK Subban, Mikhail Sergachev and Alex Galchenyuk. Rumors are swirling that Max Pacioretty is on his way out as well as a way to purge the team of its attitude problems. All those players were/are supposed to be key contributors throughout their playing days, PK being a #1D, Sergachev having #1D potential and Galchenyuk still having good potential as a top 6 player (whether as a C or winger remains to be seen with the Coyotes).

With all these moves recently, the only solid contributors on the team drafted by the Habs organization are now Price, Gallagher and Pacioretty - 3 players out of an entire lineup. And it's not like any serious players are waiting in the pipeline for their opportunity (maybe Juulsen, but he's more of a top 4).

This begs the question, are there any examples of winning teams where the core was acquired via trades?

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[MMC]

Vegas got Smith, Marchessault, Karlsson, Tuch, Haula, and Fleury all through trades.

 

[PuckSeparator]

Vegas got Smith, Marchessault, Karlsson, Tuch, Haula, and Fleury all through trades.

Fine, outside Vegas. Circumstances were obviously very different as they were in expansion team in the most favourable time to be an expansion team in NHL history, but technically you are right.

 

[Revelation]

Fine, outside Vegas. Circumstances were obviously very different as they were in expansion team in the most favourable time to be an expansion team in NHL history, but technically you are right.

Nashville got their 1D, 1C, 2C and 1W (and 2W before he was poached by Vegas) all through trades

 

[Hasbro]

Occasionally

 

[CraigBillington]

This day and age, it's rare.
For most Cup winners/finalists, it's been building through the draft and let a core of players develop while adding pieces through UFA/trades to supplement them.

Sometimes, big trades and free agency signings work and you get to the Finals. San Jose acquiring Jones and LA with Carter are just a couple examples.

 

[Balance]

The Devils have acquired Taylor Hall, Cory Schneider, Kyle Palmieri, Sami Vatanen, and various other players via trades.

 

[Lebowski]

As long as you win the trades I don't see why it would be a problem.

 

[Dogewow]

As long as you win the trades I don't see why it would be a problem.

As long as you received a productive player that contributes to winning, what difference does it make if you “won the trade”?

 

[Lebowski]

As long as you received a productive player that contributes to winning, what difference does it make if you “won the trade”?

Because consistently losing out on trades implies making your team weaker in the long run?

 

[Dogewow]

Because consistently losing out on trades implies making your team weaker in the long run?

All that matters is that you get a productive player who is a key ingredient to your success (core player, in this scenario).

Obviously you dont want to make you’re team consistently worse through trades, but ultimately I don’t think it matters “which team comes out on top” after a trade. We may be talking about two different things here, though.

 

[El Travo]

You have to draft well before you can have enough assets to trade for significant pieces. So trading alone doesn't get you very far. Unless if you want to rely on Chiarelli having a few more Hall for Larsson trades. Even then, Jersey had to draft and develop Larsson.

 

[LeafFever]

No. Bergevin ix trying to win a cup through UFA signigs and trades. It will not work.

 

[LeafChief]

Nashville.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Nashville did it, but they only had the ammo to make the acquisitions they did because of exceptional drafting. What it shows is that being able to make good trades can be an important tool to building a team and taking it to the next level, but that teams still need to draft well in order to fill other spots and accrue the value to make those kind of trades.

-Neal (Lost to VGK in the expansion draft, acquired with Hornqvist who was a 7th round pick being the main piece)
-Erat (NSH 7th Round Pick turned into Forsberg)
-Turris (Girard who was a 2nd round pick was the center piece of the deal. Basically, three 2nd rounders turned into Turris)
-PK Subban (Weber who was taken in the mid 1st, flipped for Subban.)
-Ryan Johansen (Jones was a layup at 4 so it's hard to give them credit for this one, but still proves the point of drafting=value to make trading possible)

 

[Superlative Soup]

If you only trade with Edmonton, Montreal, Ottawa and Vancouver, then yes.

 

[LeafFever]

Nashville has built an amazing D though which they used in trades. Montreal is drafting nothing and making a bunch of trades for no reason.

 

[FerrisRox]

Vegas got Smith, Marchessault, Karlsson, Tuch, Haula, and Fleury all through trades.

They only got Smith and Tuch through trades out of that list.