Dreger: BUF possibly keeping Taylor Hall off roster for precautionary reasons.

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    The economics aside, to me Taylor Hall is a lot like Marian Gabroik at the 2014 trade deadline. Having a bad season and a poor playoff record but the Kings rolled the dice and bet on his talent. He was put with Kopitar and it paid off greatly to give him a true scoring forward. Just don't give him a dumb contract afterward.
     
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    That Gaborik contract was the end of Dean Lombardi.
     
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    There is stuff to like if you believe in advanced stats. Individual expected goals 9, vs his 2. Leads sabres in individual scoring chances and high danger chances. Corsi, fenwick, shots, everything over 50%, although with favorable zone starts.

    Aside from the actual points on the stat sheet, his season looks pretty similar to many Hall seasons. Very similar to his time in Arizona last year.

    Imagine he will be attractive to teams that are true believers in underlying stats. For people that believe in the Hall curse though, definitely stay away :)
     
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    Yeah now he's a consultant for the Flyers. Yay.
     
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    How about a 2022 3rd (becomes a second if Sharks extend him) and a B prospect? No retention needed.
     
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    After witnessing the Devils/Islanders trade, I don't think Hall is being traded as a stand alone piece. A 1st, maybe multiple high end draft picks may indeed be on the table if Buffalo decides to package Hall with Risto or Reinhart. It's hard to say what Adams is doing in Buffalo, but multiple reports coming out on the Islanders being in on Hall heavy before shifting for a multiple piece package.
     
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    Why??? Isn't the team bad enough already?
     
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    With the NJ/NYI trade already taking place that reduces the number of teams potentially in on Hall, reducing the likelihood of a bidding war. I hope Adams doesn't make the mistake of holding out too long and missing out on the action or value.

    Hall + Montour both at 50% for your 1st, 4th and cap dump
     
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    Gabby... even as an Avs fan I loved that guy. If only he could have remained healthy.
     
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    Maybe hall to Boston now?
     
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    That’s my thought, but it’s entirely possible they just don’t see a fit/think it’s worth it? Just sayin, and in that case, who wants him? It’d be very Sabres of them to.. have to continue icing the fantastic hockey player, Taylor Hall, for the rest of the season. Just no deal done after sitting him out.
     
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    Could be. Seems to be playoff bound teams looking for multiple positions upgrades.
     
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    Nothing against Reinhart, or the team ( :D ) specifically. Just wondering aloud is all.
     
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    Kerfoot for hall
     
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    Reinhart has one year of team control -- he should be on table. Not sure why he's not.
     
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    Perfectly cool with packaging Risto and Hall for a better return, if someone wants that.

    Reinhart, no way, unless the return is an offer we can't refuse.
     
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    Hall and Risto for Adam Larsson and a 3rd.

    Oilers won the trade ever since the beginning. Crazy how it worked out. Larsson still with the Oilers while Hall has been bounced around like an NHL journeymen.
     
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    Larsson has been a beast this year for the Oilers. We need him for the playoffs.
     
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    That's atrocious and you should feel bad for posting it.
     
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    Thought I'd throw this in there.
    Buffalo is going to be bad for a year or two still.

    James Neal (1.5 mill retained), Mikko Koskinen (500k retained), Samorukov, Marody, 2021 1st, 2022 3rd for Hall (1mill retained) and Ullmark
     
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    Buffalo doesn't have to be bad even next season. Over half the roster is UFA. Making this deal will guarantee buffalo is bad next year with those two cap dumps and losing Ullmark, though. I'm expecting that there are talks going on to try to extend Ullmark - if Linus is not going to entertain that, then maybe. But two cap dumps like that is a rough sell
     
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    That would be their 82 RD. Gotta catch em all.
     
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    My idea was assuming Ullmark doesn't want to come back, which I mean, is very likely.

    Koskinen is only for next year and Neal is for 2 but with his retention he would be making just over 4.

    Marody is looking to be NHL ready and same with Samorukov. On top of the first.

    Hell you could use those prospects to turn things around quicker too. Now or course if Ullmark wants to stay, no way but who knows.

    Caps flat next year so it might make sense for Buffalo to just sign some guys to one year deals and then when the cap goes up use all their cap space and assets to make a big splash.
     
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    Is this the score or team record ?
    Massive overpay by the bronze n blue if that is the case.
     

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