Proposal: Buchnevich to Florida
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Kaapo di tutti capi
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Wait. Buffalo fans are saying Zib is a product of Panarin. How far does this dependency go? Are they all dependent on 93-94 Messier?
NYR Viper
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Jesus. All the way to Jesus
Its just a testament to how good Panarin is. Panarin is so good that Zib , who is a product of Panarin, can make Buch a product of him. Panarin is so good he has secondary products. Next season Laf might play with Buch and Laf might be a product of Buch. Then Panarin will have tertiary products.
Buffalo fans:
-Claim Zibanejad is a product of Panarin.
-Claim Buch is also a product of Panarin via Zibanejad
-Acknowledge Panarin outproduces Eichel
-Acknowledge that Eichel doesn't make anybody significantly better (constantly saying his production is harmed by bad linemates)
-Whine when somebody concludes Panarin is a better player than Eichel. Eichel is 25 and a center. Has to be better than Panarin.
If it wasn't sad and annoying it would be funny.
Goomba
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Its not bad reasoning as NY can easily replace wingers but cant centers; I think that money is better spent on Zibenajd and a 2C vs Zibanejad and Buchenvich
the Rangers kind of put themselves in a tight cap move the next few years with Kreider and Troubas deals
NY should continue drafting as they want an extended contenders window during Panarins entire contract
You are onto something that all Rangers fans will absolutely never listen to.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
It's more likely that Zibanejad is a product of Buch than the opposite. Buch has been much better 5v5 than Zibanejad has when they are split up. Buch was one of the better PK'ers in the NHL as well. I'd hate to lose him honestly.
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I keep seeing these threads, and can't figure out why it would make sense for NYR to make the determination now that they won't be able to afford Buch in 2-3 years. Why not wait for 2-3 of Lafreniere, Kakko, Kravtsov, and Chytil to actually pass him? Because there's a good chance that a few years from now only one of those guys actually ends up as good as Buch.
LOFIN
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Kakko has much worse trade value than Buch right now, yet most likely will end up being the better player. So no.
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this is very far from the truth
in Zib's best years, Buchnevich was the best player on his line. He drives play way more than Zibanejad does and is heavily involved in team offense when he's on the ice.
Besides, Zib gets most of his points on the PP, Buch doesn't play the same PP unit as him.
this is an illustration of someone following the adage
if you repeat something long enuf
regardless of whether or not it actually is true,
people will adopt it as if it were true.
Bend buckle and break
capitulate to reality
you do not control this narrative
Buch is not getting 7m this upcoming season, nor is it likely he gets that the following as well.
He deserves and will get a big raise, but that is only from the current 3.25
once past covid effects by following season,
THEN if he keeps up production
all bets are off and he THEN sniffs or gets 7/+
not before
Not sure why the Rangers are offering up Buchnevich on HF boards - I realize the OP is not a Ranger fan but then the Rangers fans seem OK with trading him.
If you all truly feel Buchnevich is a progressing winger in his prime, who is already putting up 1st line numbers and playing well defensively and you can sign him longer term for $7m per year... then why wouldn't you keep that?
On the other hand you have to hope and pray Kakko will be a first line winger who puts up 1st line points and plays the game well defensively. Should Kakko turn out to be that player, then you have a problem every team would love to have.... 3 first line valuable wingers.
You know the old saying, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
If you all truly feel Buchnevich is a progressing winger in his prime, who is already putting up 1st line numbers and playing well defensively and you can sign him longer term for $7m per year... then why wouldn't you keep that?
On the other hand you have to hope and pray Kakko will be a first line winger who puts up 1st line points and plays the game well defensively. Should Kakko turn out to be that player, then you have a problem every team would love to have.... 3 first line valuable wingers.
You know the old saying, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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Rangerboy030
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Buch is likely to command $6m+ on his next deal. We've got Panarin and Kreider on big deals and we've got three young wingers who all have potential to be as good if not better than Buch in Laffy, Kakko and Kravtsov. We've also got some pretty big question marks about our long term outlook at C.
It sucks, because Buch is fantastic (and also has an underrated snarl to his game which we need more of, not less), but it's just not smart to have that many top-6 wingers. We need more balance on our roster and Buch is one hell of a trade chip, so here we are.
Rangers are trying to make the playoffs and have no cap issues this year
they can trade Buch later if the cap becomes a concern. He’s not traded this year
they can trade Buch later if the cap becomes a concern. He’s not traded this year
thank you ....the capologists are thinking too much about when Kakko , Laf are off entry level
signing Buch will not make him unmoveable later if need be
FoxysExpensiveNYDigs
Boo Nieves Truther
asked^...
and answered...
I get yelled at a lot for preaching truth.
Reality is old makes way for the young.
Beyond as that applies to age affecting performance
it may be more immediately true w/salary impacting cap in a hard cap league, and typically youth is cheaper than vets.
Not afraid to spend owner's money.
But being ahead of the curve with adequate cap surplus = ability to seize opportunity when it presents itself.
Buch, Strome + Zib gotta go.
sorry Vitto, no
aside from other legit reasons,
the emerging youth needs those mins
which is the other reason, besides cap mgmt and trade haul from selling high, that Buch has to go
You really think going w a RW of Kakko who hasn’t broken out yet .... a rookie in Kravtsov....Gauthier who may be gone in expansion is good?
who replaces Buch ? A 1 year ufa?
do they really need another prospect ?
it’s time to get off the prospect train they have enough
I will be shocked if Buch is dealt. Stop overthinking the cap it’s not a problem this season
You NEVER have enuf draft picks/prospects.
Only when you have a surplus can you then deal part of that surplus for a splurge.
We are not there yet.
Stop please w/all the win now bs.
Was nothing learned from the past decade?
Trading for the likes of EStrome, etc etc etc
IF the guys we have/had (like Howden) demonstrate they can't cut the mustard, then fine, get what you can and move on.
Don't lump Chytil and Gauthier in that group.
Kakko started here AS A FREAKIN TEENAGER.
Bend buckle and break in recognizing, not rejecting that fact.
He is gonna be fine if he continues on course, which can be accelerated with the right linemates.
Krav to C
don't argue, just do it
Kakko-Krav-Panarin
works on paper, solves many problems
LaF - Chytil - Gauthier
also works
G got screw job from Quinn, release his potential, don't waste the value of 2nd [Keane] we gave up for him
pushing whoever is left into bottom 6 deepens and improves the lineup
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