Signing(s): Bryce Harper to Phillies (13 years/330 M)

[John Price]

I realize it means nothing, but for the sake of conversation, Sports Illustrated did their top-100 current players yesterday. Harper was #20. They get it.

MLB Top 100: Ranking Trout, Harper and...Vlad Jr.?

but his statistics sux and he is "overrated"

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

but his statistics sux and he is "overrated"

He is overrated. That's the point. That list has a bunch of position players ahead of him including the debated (here) Judge and Yelich.

KrisBryantisnotbest on this list, but he is ahead of Harper as well.

 

[rangerssharks414]

but his statistics sux and he is "overrated"

Nobody is saying his stats suck, but he is overrated.

 

[John Price]

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelp...ce-harper-who-continues-have-trouble-fastball

 

[John Price]

Over the first 53 games of the season, Harper is hitting just .227 with nine homers and 34 RBIs. He does have a healthy .355 on-base percentage, fueled by 37 walks.

 

[John Price]

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Since 2012

10	Nolan Arenado

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11	Manny Machado

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12	Jose Altuve

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13	Freddie Freeman

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14	Lorenzo Cain

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15	Giancarlo Stanton

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16	Andrew McCutchen

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17	Anthony Rizzo

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18	Miguel Cabrera

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19	Ian Kinsler

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20	Christian Yelich

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Since Harper entered MLB in 2012 he's not one of the top 20 position players in baseball. He's one of the most over hyped players in MLB history. Arenado and Yelich entered MLB in 2013 and are ranked 10th and 20th respectively since 2012.

 

[John Price]

Since 2012

10	Nolan Arenado

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11	Manny Machado

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12	Jose Altuve

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13	Freddie Freeman

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14	Lorenzo Cain

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15	Giancarlo Stanton

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16	Andrew McCutchen

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17	Anthony Rizzo

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18	Miguel Cabrera

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19	Ian Kinsler

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20	Christian Yelich

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Since Harper entered MLB in 2012 he's not one of the top 20 position players in baseball. He's one of the most over hyped players in MLB history. Arenado and Yelich entered MLB in 2013 and are ranked 10th and 20th respectively since 2012.

330 million for an overrated bust player

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Over the first 53 games of the season, Harper is hitting just .227 with nine homers and 34 RBIs. He does have a healthy .355 on-base percentage, fueled by 37 walks.

and a "blistering" 0.5 WAR

have fun with that mess Philly

 

[Voight]

Over the first 53 games of the season, Harper is hitting just .227 with nine homers and 34 RBIs. He does have a healthy .355 on-base percentage, fueled by 37 walks.

Don't worry, they're gonna sign Mike Tr--- oh wait nevermind

 

[Canes]

At least Bruce raised his OPS over .800 last night.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

He has 75 strikeouts already. Something ain't right here

 

[Vamos Rafa]

There shouldn't be any excuses why he's down to this level. He's looking like a rich man's Jason Heyward. Ouch.

 

[John Price]

Re-grading the biggest MLB offseason signings

he is hitting .243/.364/.475 with 10 home runs -- a relatively soft number considering 69 players had already hit 10 before Harper reached double digits Wednesday -- and was tied for the major league lead in strikeouts entering Wednesday. He ranked 84th in the majors in wOBA and the Phillies didn't give Harper $330 million to be the 84th-best hitter in the game.

He's drawing walks and one hot streak will increase his current pace of 27 home runs to 30-something. Still, the strikeouts are a growing concern -- up 7.2 percent from last season and more than 10 percent from two seasons ago. One thing to wonder about is his approach at the plate, especially with nobody on. He's hitting .306 with runners in scoring position and .299 with men on base, but just .168 with the bases empty. The same thing happened last season, when he hit .290 with runners in scoring position, .303 with men on and .214 with the bases empty. Maybe he's trying too hard to hit home runs with nobody on. Maybe he needs to view himself as a hitter more than a power hitter. Selling out for power with nobody on isn't working. Grade: C-

 

[MS]

The strange thing is how many people seem surprised by this. This is the 3rd year in 4 that he's hit in the .240s.

He's had one fluke 10 WAR season where he hit like Lou Gehrig and for the rest of his career he's basically Carlos Santana. A .250-270 hitter with 25 HR and 90 RBI and a ton of walks to get to a 120 OPS+.

 

[trostol]

I would take the low average and such if i wasn't so concerned about that K rate..if he would stop flailing atso many pitches ..and he even looks overmatched on FB's that aren't well..overly fast

 

[John Price]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...416efdc0803_story.html?utm_term=.d74545b8e890

Remember when Bryce Harper was slumping last season? He’s back, slumping again.

 

[JeremyTB]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...416efdc0803_story.html?utm_term=.d74545b8e890

Remember when Bryce Harper was slumping last season? He’s back, slumping again.

Remember when there use to be a debate on who was better? Harper or Trout?

 

[darko]

Remember the time Ix wasn't salty? No, neither do I.

 

[John Price]

Guys I don't think he's making the all star team this year

 

[GKJ]

The Phillies are a complete mess in general. Get through this season and start again with a full winter not trying to figure out how to get every last $330 million

 

[John Price]

Disastrous signing for the Phillies.

 

[Neutrinos]

Disastrous signing for the Phillies.

He was a 4.2 WAR player this season, so I think it's inaccurate to call it a "disastrous signing" for Philly

Machado, for comparison sake, was only a 3.1 WAR player with the Padres

 

[EpochLink]

There was a twitter post I saw earlier on Freezing Cold Takes, a bunch of Phillies fans were chanting "We got Harper!" at a Nationals game earlier in the season..the responses to that post came with the "this aged well" saying..

 

[John Price]

He was a 4.2 WAR player this season, so I think it's inaccurate to call it a "disastrous signing" for Philly

Machado, for comparison sake, was only a 3.1 WAR player with the Padres

He didn't really hit that well and his numbers were mediocre