Proposal: Bruins Trade Proposals VIII - Mod in OP

[Gee Wally]

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[rocketdan9]

Just for starters ? I wouldn't trade Jake straight up for Schenn nevermind two other first as well.

Thats a Tarasenko trade in my view

Did you already forget Schenn potting 70 points last season?

 

[Flannelman]

Last time Schenn was traded it was two firsts and a cap dump. Depends on what Stl wants. They might not want a true rebuild.

 

[maxl7]

No point if the cost is one of Pasta/McAvoy.

Elite sniper in his prime shouldn't be traded for non elite players/prospects.

I totally agree, if I were a GM that's the philosophy I would have but realistically when's the last time an elite player was traded for that a younger also elite player? Look at the return for guys like Karlsson, Skinner, Kessel. Those guys never get fair value which is why you try to get in on those kind of deals.

 

[maxl7]

Did you already forget Schenn potting 70 points last season?

Hmm, who was the elite RW that padded his totals?

 

[rocketdan9]

Hmm, who was the elite RW that padded his totals?

And who was the C that padded that RW stat?

It was mutual

Schenn is not going to come cheap... St Louis doesn't have to give him away for cheap. It will be the opposite

look maybe that Blues GM loves Zboril, Senyshen and will give up Schenn .... but that is a special/unrealistic idea

Donny if he was on the other side would do that same.... any gm would

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Its going to take a ton to get Schenn

like a 1st, Debrusk, Vaaka for starters

you would do that?

What!!??

Schenn is a very good player, but that’s f***ing ridiculous. He’s a 55-60 pt guy. His 70 pt season last year was an outlier. He’s on pace for 56 this year, and even if you used last year as a high water mark, DeBrusk had 43 as a rookie last season. You think the B’s are going to have to add UV and a 1st “for starters”?

 

[BB88]

I totally agree, if I were a GM that's the philosophy I would have but realistically when's the last time an elite player was traded for that a younger also elite player? Look at the return for guys like Karlsson, Skinner, Kessel. Those guys never get fair value which is why you try to get in on those kind of deals.

Tarasenko has 4.5 years left on his contract, and I would say that is valued clearly higher as a player than Carolina Skinner.

With that contract Blues could create a helluva bidding war for Tarasenko, and moving player like that with his term for non elite player/prospects is firing worthy.

From the Blues I'd rather try to target strenghtening of the C group.

 

[Sheppy]

Agreed. That's a huge over payment.

 

[rocketdan9]

What!!??

Schenn is a very good player, but that’s ****ing ridiculous. He’s a 55-60 pt guy. His 70 pt season last year was an outlier. He’s on pace for 56 this year, and even if you used last year as a high water mark, DeBrusk had 43 as a rookie last season. You think the B’s are going to have to add UV and a 1st “for starters”?

I mean there has been ideas thrown around of Krug + Debrusk for RHN (which is an overpay for sure)

A fair deal for Schenn....might be a 1st and vaaka.... but the open market would drive it up the price in favor for the Blues

this is why I wouldn't seek this trade, unless you are willing to overpay

 

[TCB]

Doug Amstrong's interview on the Bernie Nichols show, he commented on the great job they've done in Winnipeg with them being patient with their prospects and then he also said a player like Jaden Schwartz is worth 3 first round picks.

So I'm guessing he'd be looking for a boat load of picks/Prospects in any deal. But hey, why not start high?

 

[rocketdan9]

What!!??

Schenn is a very good player, but that’s ****ing ridiculous. He’s a 55-60 pt guy. His 70 pt season last year was an outlier. He’s on pace for 56 this year, and even if you used last year as a high water mark, DeBrusk had 43 as a rookie last season. You think the B’s are going to have to add UV and a 1st “for starters”?

btw if both GMs start arguing/debating

Blues gm would have the edge .... the 70 points may be an outlier but it was done. And Debrusk scored 30 points less even though he has potential to score more

How does trading Debrusk for Schenn 1 to 1 make sense/fair for the Blues gm? Its not like Debrusk is lighting it up this season either (and the Bruins are doing much better than the Blues)

 

[sarge88]

I mean there has been ideas thrown around of Krug + Debrusk for RHN (which is an overpay for sure)

A fair deal for Schenn....might be a 1st and vaaka.... but the open market would drive it up the price in favor for the Blues

this is why I wouldn't seek this trade, unless you are willing to overpay

I guess it depends on what the overpayment is.....

If we’re talking a 2nd or 3rd or someone like Gabrielle.....I’d be good.

If it’s Studnika, Lauzon, etc. then no.

 

[rocketdan9]

I guess it depends on what the overpayment is.....

If we’re talking a 2nd or 3rd or someone like Gabrielle.....I’d be good.

If it’s Studnika, Lauzon, etc. then no.

So what you are saying is a 2nd and Gabrielle .... for either RNH or Schenn

you can't be serious

 

[sarge88]

So what you are saying is a 2nd and Gabrielle .... for either RNH or Schenn

you can't be serious

Nooooo.

That stuff in top of your original offer of a 1 and Vaakanainen.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Tarasenko is great but the Bruins already have 3 elite forwards in Marchand, Bergeron & Pasta and a top shelf 2nd line C in Krejci. In a cap world you don't get to have all those guys and ADD a Tarasenko without creating a big hole somewhere else.

The Bruins have a Ferrari in their garage already in Pasta. They don't need & can't afford another Ferrari but they can hopefully go after a loaded Mustang GT.

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Fredric is a STL kid and would possibly be a part of a Tarasenko deal

 

[rocketdan9]

Nooooo.

That stuff in top of your original offer of a 1 and Vaakanainen.

ahh I see...

 

[DKH]

What!!??

Schenn is a very good player, but that’s ****ing ridiculous. He’s a 55-60 pt guy. His 70 pt season last year was an outlier. He’s on pace for 56 this year, and even if you used last year as a high water mark, DeBrusk had 43 as a rookie last season. You think the B’s are going to have to add UV and a 1st “for starters”?

I would hang the phone up if I hear DeBrusk in Schenn talk

Tarasenko is another story

 

[Blowfish]

I would hang the phone up if I hear DeBrusk in Schenn talk

Tarasenko is another story

7.5 million a great contract. It would cost the bruins big time.

 

[maxl7]

Tarasenko has 4.5 years left on his contract, and I would say that is valued clearly higher as a player than Carolina Skinner.

With that contract Blues could create a helluva bidding war for Tarasenko, and moving player like that with his term for non elite player/prospects is firing worthy.

From the Blues I'd rather try to target strenghtening of the C group.

I'm aware of the term left on his contract. Kessel had term when he was traded. The point is that these types of players almost never get what they're worth. No team is giving up an equivalent player to Pasta or McAvoy for Tarasenko, so while Armstrong can negotiate in through the press and boast about the value of his players, when you trade these types of guys you almost always lose out.

 

[DKH]

7.5 million a great contract. It would cost the bruins big time.

Sweeney & Armstrong tight

I like Steen but to much left

 

[maxl7]

Tarasenko is great but the Bruins already have 3 elite forwards in Marchand, Bergeron & Pasta and a top shelf 2nd line C in Krejci. In a cap world you don't get to have all those guys and ADD a Tarasenko without creating a big hole somewhere else.

The Bruins have a Ferrari in their garage already in Pasta. They don't need & can't afford another Ferrari but they can hopefully go after a loaded Mustang GT.

Every single team has weaknesses. That's the nature of the salary cap. I'd rather have a roster weakness as a result of having "too many" elite players than trying to have the impossible "balanced" team, especially considering that hockey is a strong link game.

 

[Blowfish]

Sweeney & Armstrong tight

I like Steen but to much left

Ryan O'Reilly would look good in a bruins uniform

 

[rocketdan9]

Ryan O'Reilly would look good in a bruins uniform

No thanks

paid too much