Confirmed with Link: Bruins sign Jarome Iginla

[Bruinator]

I think he got stale in Calgary where they were perennial bottom feeders. In Pittsburgh it was just a bad situation all around. They don't play the style he prefers which is our style, they used him at the left wing spot which is not where he played most of his career and he never developed the chemistry there because it is hard to do when you come in late in a season. Here he will have the advantage of a training camp generating familiarity with tendencies and he will create more opportunities for his team mates no doubt. I can see him taking lots of one time slap shots on feeds by Dk, he will also dig the puck out of the corners for Looch and vice versa, this line will be dynamite. He has 11 straight 30 goal + seasons in an 82 game schedule, who do we have with these credentials?

OK, I'm confused here. In Pitt after the trade, he had 5 gaols and 11 points in 13 games. That projects to 31 goals and around 70 points. Why are people making excuses for him as though he was **** there. Even in the playoffs before the Bruin debacle where the entire team was shut down, he had 4 goals and 12 points in 11 games which again is a pace of 30 goals and over 80 points. Imagine what he would have done if he was a good fit and playing on the right side. What am I missing.

 

[Bruinator]

But, but, but... he won the GM of the Year award! http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=674005

That's why that award is a joke. IMO, that award should be voted on after the playoffs because that is really the only time you will know how the trade deadline deals pan out.

 

[Kosikarzzz]

Does lucic train with Iginla in the off season? Could have sworn he used too.

 

[Bruinator]

You know, in the midst of all of this, I have to admire Chia's ability to turn the other cheek and forget about what happened earlier in the season. He could've turned his back on Iginla's agent's inquiries and just focused on trying to emphasize more usage of our prospects. It wouldn't have been that hard to do so, though a lot of them are too raw to make a guarantee on the roster anyway...

Anyway, this is just another reason why I like Chia. Business as usual, don't let the personal BS get in the way. Sign the best guys you can and make this team stronger for the cup. I'd still like to see someone speedy on the third line, but if Kelly's STILL centering that line it probably wouldn't help anyway.

really wanna see Iggy get 30 goals again this next season before I beg for him to come back. We have no clue how well he'll handle playing a defensive system

In all honesty, I have to think after seeing the way Bartowski played in the playoffs and getting Jagre for a much lesser set of prospects, Chia is probably grateful to Iginla for balking. Like he said, too, pretty hard to question the guy's motives the way the two teams were playing at the time.

 

[Danton Heineken]

Does lucic train with Iginla in the off season? Could have sworn he used too.

Lucic is to Iginla as Krejci is to Jagr. He'll probably score 30 again if they play together all season.

 

[HumBucker]

OK, I'm confused here. In Pitt after the trade, he had 5 gaols and 11 points in 13 games. That projects to 31 goals and around 70 points. Why are people making excuses for him as though he was **** there. Even in the playoffs before the Bruin debacle where the entire team was shut down, he had 4 goals and 12 points in 11 games which again is a pace of 30 goals and over 80 points. Imagine what he would have done if he was a good fit and playing on the right side. What am I missing.

Exactly. I don't know why people are painting this picture of him struggling in Pitt. He didn't.

 

[Artemis]

Exactly. I don't know why people are painting this picture of him struggling in Pitt. He didn't.

Because most Bruins fans didn't watch the Pens after the trade deadline/early in the playoffs; they watched when they played Boston.

 

[3rdMangHigh]

Does lucic train with Iginla in the off season? Could have sworn he used too.

I recall hearing a couple years back about Lucic joining the Ference/Iginla group in Vernon, BC. Not sure if its every year or just that one.

 

[CanadianBruinsFan]

Pens fans weren't really happy with him even when he was putting points up, for one reason or another. I'll chock it up to playing the other side for the first time in his life, and not really having a place in the lineup. I'm saying somewhere between 25-35 depending on PP effectiveness, both him personally and as a whole. If he gets 60 points and contributes in the playoffs I'll be peachy.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Here are some interesting Jarome Iginla stats - warning, lots of #'s ahead...

RED = Well above career average
BLUE = Well below career average


vs Division Opponents

Career vs Sabres: 0.40 Goals per game, 0.60 Points per game, 0.20 Powerplay Goals per game
Career vs Red Wings: 0.34 Goals per game, 0.89 Points per game, 0.08 Powerplay Goals per game
Career vs Panthers: 0.40 Goals per game, 0.75 Points per game, 0.05 Powerplay Goals per game
Career vs Canadiens: 0.43 Goals per game, 0.93 Points per game, 0.11 Powerplay Goals per game
Career vs Senators: 0.29 Goals per game, 0.63 Points per game, 0.00 Powerplay Goals per game
Career vs Lightning: 0.68 Goals per game, 1.11 Points per game, 0.26 Powerplay Goals per game
Career vs Maple Leafs: 0.44 Goals per game, 0.91 Points per game, 0.09 Powerplay Goals per game


Career Monthly Statistics

October: 0.38 Goals per game, 0.87 Points per game, 0.15 Powerplay Goals per game
November: 0.40 Goals per game, 0.90 Points per game, 0.15 Powerplay Goals per game
December: 0.46 Goals per game, 0.89 Points per game, 0.12 Powerplay Goals per game
January: 0.36 Goals per game, 0.82 Points per game, 0.09 Powerplay Goals per game
February: 0.50 Goals per game, 0.99 Points per game, 0.13 Powerplay Goals per game
March: 0.48 Goals per game, 0.95 Points per game, 0.15 Powerplay Goals per game
April: 0.39 Goals per game, 0.81 Points per game, 0.15 Powerplay Goals per game


Career Playoff Statistics

0.46 Goals per game, 0.88 Points per game, 0.17 Powerplay Goals per game


Finally, I've seen many posts stating that Iginla's production has declined (steeply?) recently, while some posters have disagreed. Let's examine his yearly statistical averages.

1996-1997: 0.26 Goals per game, 0.61 Points per game, 0.10 Powerplay Goals per game
1997-1998: 0.19 Goals per game, 0.46 Points per game, 0.00 Powerplay Goals per game
1998-1999: 0.34 Goals per game, 0.62 Points per game, 0.09 Powerplay Goals per game
1999-2000: 0.38 Goals per game, 0.82 Points per game, 0.16 Powerplay Goals per game
2000-2001: 0.40 Goals per game, 0.92 Points per game, 0.13 Powerplay Goals per game
2001-2002: 0.63 Goals per game, 1.17 Points per game, 0.20 Powerplay Goals per game
2002-2003: 0.47 Goals per game, 0.89 Points per game, 0.15 Powerplay Goals per game
2003-2004: 0.51 Goals per game, 0.90 Points per game, 0.10 Powerplay Goals per game
2005-2006: 0.43 Goals per game, 0.82 points per game, 0.21 Powerplay Goals per game
2006-2007: 0.56 Goals per game, 1.34 Points per game, 0.19 Powerplay Goals per game
2007-2008: 0.61 Goals per game, 1.20 Points per game, 0.18 Powerplay Goals per game
2008-2009: 0.43 Goals per game, 1.09 Points per game, 0.12 Powerplay Goals per game
2009-2010: 0.39 Goals per game, 0.84 Points per game, 0.12 Powerplay Goals per game
2010-2011: 0.52 Goals per game, 1.05 Points per game, 0.17 Powerplay Goals per game
2011-2012: 0.39 Goals per game, 0.82 Points per game, 0.10 Powerplay Goals per game
2012-2013: 0.32 Goals per game, 0.75 Points per game, 0.14 Powerplay Goals per game


Yep, Iginla's production has indeed declined over the past two years. However, one only needs to look back as far as the 2010-2011 season to find a season in which he put up above career average numbers in most categories. Also, you've got to think that coming off of the lockout and preparing to uproot from Calgary played a factor in his "down" 2012-2013 season. Has he truly reached the twilight of his career? I'm not so sure.

I don't think Bruins' fans should expect the 2006-2011 Jarome Iginla to come in and totally dominate, but I do think that he'll put up much closer to his "average" numbers than he did during this past season. He's got to prove himself to the team that he spurned, and at the same time I'm sure he'd also like to put up some nice numbers in order to earn another big contract in the next offseason.

Oh, and the Lightning better hope that they aren't scheduled to face the Bruins in February.

 

[westernhome]

always good to crunch numbers, BruinsFanMike


would be interesting to extrapolate some numbers based on players stats that have been on the Bruins and another team in recent years and see how their production compares when a Bruin vs. being on another team

seems to me that in almost all cases I can remember recently, just as an example, a 50 point player on another team translates into getting about 35 points on the Bruins... many cases to prove or disprove this

 

[patty59]

always good to crunch numbers, BruinsFanMike


would be interesting to extrapolate some numbers based on players stats that have been on the Bruins and another team in recent years and see how their production compares when a Bruin vs. being on another team

seems to me that in almost all cases I can remember recently, just as an example, a 50 point player on another team translates into getting about 35 points on the Bruins... many cases to prove or disprove this

Any proof of those numbers? You're talking a 30% drop.

 

[westernhome]

Any proof of those numbers? You're talking a 30% drop.

well, I just casually compared a few guys I could think of, Horton, Ryder, Corvo, Pouliot... seems like guys put up much bigger numbers on different teams than they do with the Bruins

it will be interesting to compare Seguin after this season

 

[Bruwinz37]

well, I just casually compared a few guys I could think of, Horton, Ryder, Corvo, Pouliot... seems like guys put up much bigger numbers on different teams than they do with the Bruins

it will be interesting to compare Seguin after this season

Except this really didnt happen to the degree you are suggesting and you are just making up stats. God, the lazy arguments on this board are really weak. If you dont want to put forth the effort to completely make a case for something then dont just show up for the participation ribbon.

 

[N o o d l e s]

Except this really didnt happen to the degree you are suggesting and you are just making up stats. God, the lazy arguments on this board are really weak. If you dont want to put forth the effort to completely make a case for something then dont just show up for the participation ribbon.

Especially with his avatar and the player in question

 

[KuralySnipes]

I don't think it is out of the question at all to suggest Iginla will score 30 this year. People say how he's too slow, well Krejci's line isn't exactly fast anyways, he should be able to keep up with the play. His finishing abilities are still elite, and arguably better than Horton.

 

[westernhome]

Except this really didnt happen to the degree you are suggesting and you are just making up stats. God, the lazy arguments on this board are really weak. If you dont want to put forth the effort to completely make a case for something then dont just show up for the participation ribbon.

Nathan Horton: Florida 09/10 0.88ppg Boston 10/11 0.66ppg
Michael Ryder: Boston 10/11 0.52ppg Dallas 11/12 0.76ppg
Joe Corvo: Carolina 10/11 0.49ppg Boston 11/12 0.33ppg
Benoit Pouliot: Boston 11/12 0.43ppg Tampa 12/13 0.59ppg

 

[KuralySnipes]

Nathan Horton: Florida 09/10 0.88ppg Boston 10/11 0.66ppg
Michael Ryder: Boston 10/11 0.52ppg Dallas 11/12 0.76ppg
Joe Corvo: Carolina 10/11 0.49ppg Boston 11/12 0.33ppg
Benoit Pouliot: Boston 11/12 0.43ppg Tampa 12/13 0.59ppg

Pouliot played with St.Louis and Lecalvalier, didn't he?

 

[Shaun]

Nathan Horton: Florida 09/10 0.88ppg Boston 10/11 0.66ppg
Michael Ryder: Boston 10/11 0.52ppg Dallas 11/12 0.76ppg
Joe Corvo: Carolina 10/11 0.49ppg Boston 11/12 0.33ppg
Benoit Pouliot: Boston 11/12 0.43ppg Tampa 12/13 0.59ppg

All of those stats came on horrible teams that didn't go anywhere.

 

[westernhome]

Pouliot played with St.Louis and Lecalvalier, didn't he?

I seem to remember he played on the second line the most, but not sure, you might be right

I guess one could dissect the reasons for each player's success on different teams, but I just noticed a recurring trend and thought it was worth mentioning as food for thought

 

[FakeKidPoker*]

Not a guy you want int your locker room.

Bruins are a bunch of winners.. and now adding one of the biggest losers in the league.. eh

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

Benoit Pouliot 2012-2013 most common linemates with Tampa Bay (Top 2 %'s):

19.12%: Pouliot - Lecavalier - St. Louis
12.56%: Pouliot - Stamkos - St. Louis


Anyway, I failed to post Iginla's actual career averages in my previous post.

0.43 Goals per game
0.90 Points per game
0.13 Powerplay Goals per game

He has only missed 3.6% of regular season games over his career. That equates to him playing about 79-80 games per season over his sixteen-year career.

If he hits his career-averages in 2013-2014, he should put up approximately 34 goals, 71 points and 10 powerplay goals.

Basing his stats on last year's production alone, he should put up approximately 25 goals, 59 points and 11 powerplay goals.

If he plays 79-82 games, I think he'll end up somewhere in between those two averages. My expectation for his production is ~30 goals (~10 on the PP) and ~65 points.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

I am sure Iginla will put up much better regular season numbers this year compared to Hortons regular season last year.The only concern I have is will Iginla be able to score some clutch goals in the playoffs the way Horton did.

 

[GoBs]

I am sure Iginla will put up much better regular season numbers this year compared to Hortons regular season last year.The only concern I have is will Iginla be able to score some clutch goals in the playoffs the way Horton did.

Iggy had some pretty good point production with the Pens going into the series against us.

 

[Flannelman]

Mike - excellent numbers. Thanks for running them. Your expected numbers look rational to me.