Confirmed with Link: Bruins name Cassidy, Pandolfo Assistant Coaches

[Mpasta]

Can somebody please hijack this thread and turn it into a ripfest on Julien??? It's been three pages already...hurry up.

Oh how gold is this?!

You constantly complain about others hating on Julien and then you post something like this? You can't live without the hate.

 

[northeastern]

Of all the coaches to let go, they decided to axe Houda and Jarvis?

And SACCO stays?

Yup no idea how this was decided. But I hate it.

Cassidy up to help the kids I'd assume buy he better not get the first crack at the head job if clode stumbles out of the gate

 

[FONZIE]

Hey you never know.

If things are going bad come December could be Bruins version of 'The Red Wedding'.

Clode will block DS from entering the locker room yelling HODOR! HODOR!

 

[bp13]

Oh how gold is this?!

You constantly complain about others hating on Julien and then you post something like this? You can't live without the hate.

It's my sanity check. I mean this thread even has the word "coach" in the title! It's like the earth is off its axis. They need to get in here.

 

[chizzler]

Is Whitesides gone?

 

[KnightofBoston]

Im ok with this. From a hockey perspective, Cassidy knows what he's doing and I think he'll be much better off in an assistant role rather than leading role where his personality quirks will be kept more at bay.

Not happy to see Sacco return, don't think he's got it

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Savvy....

That would be fantastic. Those are the types of players I'd like to see becoming coaches... not Pandolfo.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

That would be fantastic. Those are the types of players I'd like to see becoming coaches... not Pandolfo.

why? Wayne Gretzky was a terrible coach.

Coaching ability and playing ability generally aren't correlated and by all accounts Pandolfo is good at his job and has a very good defensive mind. He'll likely be helping run the defense so comparing him to Savard (who has no coaching experience and is not a defensive specialist) is like comparing apples to aardvarks.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

It's hilarious how many people, who have zero idea about these coaches or even what their responsibilities are going to be, are already crapping on the move. I am not a Cassidy fan, particularly as a head coach, but was told by a couple of hockey people as far back as two years ago that Cassidy would make a great NHL Asst coach because he's got a great hockey mind. The NFL landscape is littered with guys who are great assistant coaches, but could never hack it as a HC. Different sport, but I'm going to assume that the same holds true for hockey.

As usual, I will wait to see how things actually play out before prematurely condemning the move. Not a popular stance it seems? Also, I don't get to say I told you so at some later date, but I think I can live with that.

 

[Ice Nine]

How's the old expression go?

"Any time you have a chance to add a coach who has a career .500 record and has made it past the 2nd playoff round only 1 time in 15 years at any level, you have to do it!"

I think it sends a clear message to the rest of the organization: perform or you'll be shipped out.

And by "perform", I mean just show up. And by "shipped out", I mean promoted.

 

[shackattack]

Yes because there are so many better options roght now. Claude is probably the 3rd best coach in the league right now behind Babcock and Quenneville

Babcock is not what folks think.Anyone could have won Olympics with that roster and he had 1 cup on 10 years with Wings.That said at least Bruins are making some changes.Moving forward

 

[GarbageGoal]

That would be fantastic. Those are the types of players I'd like to see becoming coaches... not Pandolfo.

why? Wayne Gretzky was a terrible coach.

Coaching ability and playing ability generally aren't correlated and by all accounts Pandolfo is good at his job and has a very good defensive mind. He'll likely be helping run the defense so comparing him to Savard (who has no coaching experience and is not a defensive specialist) is like comparing apples to aardvarks.

It is mind numbing how many people buy right into the "mediocre player will equal poor coach, go hire a guy who was a good player, he'll be awesome" fallacy.

Guys like Pandolfo or say, Peter Laviolette (a career minor leaguer aside from a cup of coffee with the NYR) spent their time in the pros soaking info like a sponge from the guys coaching them. Great natural players, for the most part, can be on some level uncoachable and therefore often can't translate what they internally know to another player in a way that makes sense.

I also think a lot of stuff with Savard is pure romanticism thru the prism of a circumstance many of us were deeply affected by. But that's another story.

 

[CDJ]

It's hilarious how many people, who have zero idea about these coaches or even what their responsibilities are going to be, are already crapping on the move. I am not a Cassidy fan, particularly as a head coach, but was told by a couple of hockey people as far back as two years ago that Cassidy would make a great NHL Asst coach because he's got a great hockey mind. The NFL landscape is littered with guys who are great assistant coaches, but could never hack it as a HC. Different sport, but I'm going to assume that the same holds true for hockey.

As usual, I will wait to see how things actually play out before prematurely condemning the move. Not a popular stance it seems? Also, I don't get to say I told you so at some later date, but I think I can live with that.

100% this.

 

[Mpasta]

It's hilarious how many people, who have zero idea about these coaches or even what their responsibilities are going to be, are already crapping on the move. I am not a Cassidy fan, particularly as a head coach, but was told by a couple of hockey people as far back as two years ago that Cassidy would make a great NHL Asst coach because he's got a great hockey mind. The NFL landscape is littered with guys who are great assistant coaches, but could never hack it as a HC. Different sport, but I'm going to assume that the same holds true for hockey.

As usual, I will wait to see how things actually play out before prematurely condemning the move. Not a popular stance it seems? Also, I don't get to say I told you so at some later date, but I think I can live with that.

You're right. We shouldn't be allowed to post opinions on a message board.

 

[Sheppy]

We all know that Claude is going to tap Pandolfo's shoulder at some point this year and put him on the ice as an extra attacker.

 

[GarbageGoal]

You're right. We shouldn't be allowed to post opinions on a message board.

You can post opinions on a message board. It's nice when those opinions have some facts to back them up, ain't it? But that's your cross to bear.

 

[Absurdity]

This^

Not a fan of the recent moves.. sure hope I'm wrong for the Bruins sake

If they don't want Claude's coaching style then stop beating around the bush and cut the head off the snake like someone else mentioned.

CJ is a great coach being put in an awkward position.

Roster needed to better but like usual coaches take the blame.

The problem is the team as constructed should have a been a playoff team. They were in 1st place and then let it all slip away. Almost every beat writer in town said they were a playoff team, some of us believed they were a playoff team a few weeks after the deadline. The players and coaches let the playoffs slip away during the last couple of weeks of the season. If anyone is at fault, it's the players and the coaches, I don't see how the blame can be on one and not the other.

So Sacco and his stale PP set-up stays.

Cassidy, who hasn't developed a single full-time D-man in Providence in two seasons, is now running the D. Yes, it's not completely his fault, but he's had a part to play like it or not.

Talk about rewarding mediocrity.

Pandolfo is likely the eye in the sky. About the only assistant I have any confidence in.

Sacco and Cassidy will be co-coaches by Thanksgiving weekend at this rate.

2014-2015
Christopher Breen
Chris Casto
Steve Eminger
Joe Morrow
Zach Trotman
David Warsofsky
Frankie Simonelli
Linus Arnesson
Bryce Aneloski
Yann Sauve
Tommy Cross
Drew Mackenzie
Ben Youds
Ian White

2015-2016
Brett Bellemore
Colin Miller - (acquired from LAK)
Matt Irwin
Max Iafrate

Which of these defensemen Cassidy coached the last two seasons do you think are NHL-caliber defensemen that were part of the system (not Colin Miller)? I would say Trotman, Morrow, Warsofsky, and Cross. Apart from Trotman who can potentially have 2nd-pairing potential, the guys I listed are bottom pairing defensemen or 7D. The rest of the guys I listed will potentially be career AHLers. So isn't this more of a testament on prior drafting and how bad it was rather than blaming a coach who has to development defensemen to reach their ceiling to be #5D/6D/7D? That doesn't factor in the big club's availability of roster spots. Two years ago the Bruins had Chara, Hamilton, Krug, Seidenberg, McQuaid, and Kevan Miller and Bartkowski who both were developed in Providence prior years. This last season guys like Trotman and Morrow got shots but both weren't able to seize the opportunity and earn a spot. I think the bolded has to do more about drafting more than anything else.

 

[DKH]

You're right. We shouldn't be allowed to post opinions on a message board.

I think he means only certain people not all it would defeat the message board concept

 

[RustyBruins72]

You can post opinions on a message board. It's nice when those opinions have some facts to back them up, ain't it? But that's your cross to bear.

I don't like onions. Do I need facts to back that up?

Ok. They don't taste good and smell bad to me.

I don't like Bruce Cassidy because I think he did a bad job in Washington and coaches too much of a defensive style.

 

[GarbageGoal]

I don't like onions. Do I need facts to back that up?

Ok. They don't taste good and smell bad to me.

I don't like Bruce Cassidy because I think he did a bad job in Washington and coaches too much of a defensive style.

No, it's more like telling someone "Ugh, I hate onions, they are going to ruin that stew".

Maybe they will and maybe they won't. But if everyone praises the stew after it's done and they've had a taste, you're going to look silly, no?

Of course, this is all based on how you can even quantify what an AC does to a team. Unless you are behind the bench or in the locker room or at practice every day, I don't think you can.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

No, it's more like telling someone "Ugh, I hate onions, they are going to ruin that stew".

Maybe they will and maybe they won't. But if everyone praises the stew after it's done and they've had a taste, you're going to look silly, no?

Of course, this is all based on how you can even quantify what an AC does to a team. Unless you are behind the bench or in the locker room or at practice every day, I don't think you can.

This.

I'm on record as not liking Cassidy as the HC in PRO. However, smarter hockey people than myself have told me that he's actually a very good X's and O's guy and that he would be great in an assistant role. I guess we are going to find out.

 

[Hali33]

I mean...there was a lot of strong opinions about Cassidy here and accusing him of being a bad coach in Providence. So not really surprised people would be unhappy with it, fair or not if that's what's been said here for a while.

 

[ashnathan]

I wonder if this would have changed the Koko situation. Cassidy likes Koko and if hes an asisstant surely he'd have a bit of pull to have him in the lineup? We'll never know

 

[ashnathan]

This.

I'm on record as not liking Cassidy as the HC in PRO. However, smarter hockey people than myself have told me that he's actually a very good X's and O's guy and that he would be great in an assistant role. I guess we are going to find out.

Same here. I was a little surprised at the announcement as he said after the season "I am happy where I am" when asked about a promotion to the Bs.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

It is mind numbing how many people buy right into the "mediocre player will equal poor coach, go hire a guy who was a good player, he'll be awesome" fallacy.

Guys like Pandolfo or say, Peter Laviolette (a career minor leaguer aside from a cup of coffee with the NYR) spent their time in the pros soaking info like a sponge from the guys coaching them. Great natural players, for the most part, can be on some level uncoachable and therefore often can't translate what they internally know to another player in a way that makes sense.

I also think a lot of stuff with Savard is pure romanticism thru the prism of a circumstance many of us were deeply affected by. But that's another story.

I'd like to see Pandolfo's coaching resume as well then.

Plenty of borderline players have gone on to be good to great coaches but I don't think we need to be the team experimenting with them. If we are, then I'd absolutely rather see a former player like Recchi be spoonfed the job, or even a Savvy who might bring a little energy to the team. Pandolfo screams 'status quo'. Heck, he doesn't even qualify as former Bruin so it's odd they latch on to him so quickly while someone like PJ ends up as a 'lowly' scout.

Defensive, robotic system. Do your job. Might as well hire Bill Belichick from the Pats.