NoQuitInNewMexico
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I don't think conventional wisdom really turned on the Hall-Larsson trade until this season when the Devils were much better than the Oilers. The Subban-Weber trade was a laughingstock from the beginning.
You misunderstood. I’d get banned if I posted why today’s younger fans don’t apreciste hockey culture as it relates to physicality, intimidation and bullyingWhat would get you banned by appreciating hockey culture?
This entire discussion results from Machinehead saying Messier is a cancer and devaluing leadership and emotion. You guys are going waaaaaaay overboard in your analysisLet's see, they traded away Hall and Eberle for well ... NOTHING. Signed Lucic who sucks to an awful long term deal, Talbot is not very good, and Klefbom was injured a good part of the year. You take McDavid off that team and they are comfortably worse than the Buffalo Sabres. The problem w/ Edmonton is they have a generational player and have no CLUE what they are doing.
Um who said anything about physical play not being important in the NHL? This is a contact sport bro.
I've played hockey and basketball as a kid, and competitive martial arts in my older years so yes I have, please don't label me.
In a vacuum, I might agree with you. In a situation where my team is bottom-5 in GA, I might not.
If it's something you would get banned for, then it's not "hockey culture" it's something that I wouldn't want my hockey team a part of. Being fair.You misunderstood. I’d get banned if I posted why today’s younger fans don’t apreciste hockey culture as it relates to physicality, intimidation and bullying
Be my f***ing guestYou misunderstood. I’d get banned if I posted why today’s younger fans don’t apreciste hockey culture as it relates to physicality, intimidation and bullying
I’ll put it here in a more PC way. The same fans who claim character, leadership, and toughness or intimidation is not as important as skill are the same posters that sat quietly by on February 3rd. IMO that is the night the Rangers season ended, and the night management realized what was missing. (Also the home drubbing to the Islanders after a week off).Be my ****ing guest
Yes, we've all seen how you beg for opponents to get severely injured and that's why almost nobody respects you. It has nothing to do with age.I’ll put it here in a more PC way. The same fans who claim character, leadership, and toughness or intimidation is not as important as skill are the same posters that sat quietly by on February 3rd. IMO that is the night the Rangers season ended, and the night management realized what was missing. (Also the home drubbing to the Islanders after a week off).
Staal and Vesey we’re knocked out of the game vs the Predators with vicious, dirty, predatory hits. The rest of the game our boys did NOTHING GO RETALIATE. NOTHING. I was asking for retaliation. Begging for it actually, and some on here agreed while a few others VEHEMENTLY disagreed. It’s those that disagreed and continue to think just skill matters that I was referencing. I’m not going to use the language towards them I believe they deserve to be called
By the way skill IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, but Chemistry, character, and having a set of balls is equally important. Thank God our management and owner finally see that.
I also would have liked to see more there but that culture was instilled by Coach Prometheus. We're fixing that.Lol yeah that's why our season ended.
I actually do agree that in that particular instance something should've been done.
Too bad Cody McLeod will spend his shifts begging for a staged fight but didn't actually do anything when a real situation presented itself. That guy flew up my most hated Rangers this season. I had to flip games off when he found a fight because I cannot stand a hockey fight without a reason for it.
Anyway, yeah i wouldve liked to see a little pushback in Nashville. Laughable to say it "ended our season" though.
Character and work ethic are important.
But character and work ethic aren’t synonymous with hitting and fighting.
Andersson WAS the BPA according to Rangers scoutsSure, and I'm not saying we shouldn't address it. I just don't wanna be stupid and make the team worse for the sake of character.
Taking Andersson over BPA and trading McDonagh because of leadership indicates to me that that ship already sailed.
Dolan only mentioning the captaincy as an explanation for the McDonagh trade is a massive red flag.
Andersson WAS the BPA according to Rangers scouts
And your knowledge of where other NHL scouts had players ranked comes from? I'm sure there were at least a few teams that had him ranked similarly.They seem to be the only ones who thought so.
Not a gigantic reach but 13 is not the BPA at 7.And your knowledge of where other NHL scouts had players ranked comes from? I'm sure there were at least a few teams that had him ranked similarly.
Bob Mckenzie's final rankings, which are based off a survey from 10 NHL scouts, had Andersson 13 hardly this gigantic reach you continually make it out to be.
Regarding Hank and his decision to not lift his no trade clause, I think the organization should have pushed harder for him to reconsider. I have a feeling Hank said no because there really isn't a true Cup contender out there that would be willing to take on his salary and are in dire need of a goalie. That said, if Hank is really on board for this rebuild, then I don't want to hear him criticize his team in front of him when he gets shelled. Many of the players will be young and developing and will make mistakes. They don't need Lundqvist throwing them under the bus in the media with some of his comments which he has been known to do. You don't want to waive the no-trade? Then live with the team you have in front of you....just shut up and play.
I don't recall anyone saying Henrik was asked to lift his NTC and didn't. The way I saw it written was the team asked him if he wanted to be moved somewhere competitive or if he wanted to stay, and he said he wanted to say.Regarding Hank and his decision to not lift his no trade clause, I think the organization should have pushed harder for him to reconsider. I have a feeling Hank said no because there really isn't a true Cup contender out there that would be willing to take on his salary and are in dire need of a goalie. That said, if Hank is really on board for this rebuild, then I don't want to hear him criticize his team in front of him when he gets shelled. Many of the players will be young and developing and will make mistakes. They don't need Lundqvist throwing them under the bus in the media with some of his comments which he has been known to do. You don't want to waive the no-trade? Then live with the team you have in front of you....just shut up and play.
They took him because he was the best player available on their draft board. Whether you agree or not they believe he is the best player still left on the board. Reasons like these may play in but they weren't the deciding factor between taking CM or taking LiasNot a gigantic reach but 13 is not the BPA at 7.
If he was that high on their list, it's because of the wrong reasons - character, competes hard, future captain, etc.