Player Discussion: Brock Nelson
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I don't know who's proposing that, but Brock Nelson is not getting only a 500K raise if he hits UFA. Not with home many silly NHL owners there are out there and the cap going up.
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Which is why it wouldn't be enough to sign him. My guess is that if we want re-sign him, we would need to pony up in the neighborhood of Bailey's deal - maybe a bit more. Spitballin' here, I think if we give him some term, he would sign for $5.5m AAV.
Not sure where that puts him though. Is that #2C money? #3C? 2.5C? I wouldn't mind having Nelson as our #3C and make a run at Duchene still. But that's a big long term commitment for a lot of guys. If we were to take a run at Duchene (which I think we should), I'd probably rather go short term on our #3/4C (depending on where you have Casey) with Val or a guy like him. Problem is, we'll never know if we're in the running for Duchene until its too late.
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Tonight vs Carolina just may have been his best game ever in the NHL. Gonna light up a Cheech and Chong monster doobie tonight.
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He's been very good this year, I believe he will finish between 50-60 points as long as he's healthy and the big part for me is that when he's not putting up the points there's a pulse, he's eliminated the narrative that if he isn't scoring he isn't helping
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I wish someone could study him on game days to see why he looks like a beast some games and invisible others.
Is it sleep patterns? Food? Pregame routine?
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I know drug talk is typically not tolerated but imagine this scenario where it's 2045 and marijuana is very well mainstream - a long retired and now family man Brock Nelson is now an occasional guest on the TV broadcast and starts spewing Brockisms while openly consuming on air.
On a serious note, I am very impressed with his season so far - he could be Bailey 2.0 - homegrown player, whipping boy for MANY years, finally comes into his own later in his 20's. There is no doubt Nelson knows what makes him successful at the NHL level (reach, positioning, wicked release), what's puzzling to us has been why he doesn't tap into those qualities regularly.
It is a contract year and money can be a motivator but I think it's a response to being coached by Trotz and being given a larger role.
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I have always thought Nelson caught a lot of S..T but he is now under the tutelage of a professional coach. With that said he has managed to average 19.8 goals a year in his 5 previous NHL seasons not 9 years as some have previously mentioned, and will certainly eclipse that this year barring injury. As for your comments on his talents I wouldn't say he has a wicked release, he has a very good wrist shot but its telegraphed its not like a release you see from Bellows. But he has become this boards whipping boy over the years.In a league where scoring has become increasingly more difficult he manages to do it consistently. He is currently 27 years old if we can procure some decent center talent he could be moved to wing and we would probably all be happier.
Then I'm going to tie Nelson's contract to what's left on Trotz's contract. I don't want to take the chance that Nelson is here longer than Barry Trotz and goes back to floating through a quarter of the season.
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I have never turned around on a player as much as this player maybe since Howard Johnson with the Mets... to me has been a 3 zone player this year and if Trotz is here for 3 years then this guy is going to evolve into what Lars Eller became with Washington. There are 4 players on the team that when they are on the ice, I expect things to go good... Boychuk, Cizikas, Barzal and Nelson
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If Lee and or nelson don't sign before the trade deadline what do they do? That's two of their top forwards sitting in a playoff spot.
Trading lee / eberle the isles could recover from within MDC / Ho sang.
But the islanders C depth is lacking. If brock doesn't sign there is no organizational replacement right now no matter how well otto is playing.
Trading lee / eberle the isles could recover from within MDC / Ho sang.
But the islanders C depth is lacking. If brock doesn't sign there is no organizational replacement right now no matter how well otto is playing.
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He's been really good this year. His 2 way game has made me change my mind that the Isles would be better off resigning him this summer if the price is right.
What's a 50 pt Center playing a decently responsible 2 way game worth these days? I'd say somewhere between $5 - $5.5m for 5 years or so. If we can lock up Nelson at....call it $5.5m for 5 or 6 years, Lee for $6.7m for 6 years and then land one big FA...Panarin at $10m for 7 years, we've got something going.
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Potentially a career year for Brock goals wise and pretty certain point wise with a bit more ice time (about 2-3 shifts per game).
His shooting percentage is about the same but +/- is greatly improved. Maybe a good fit for Trotz system.
His shooting percentage is about the same but +/- is greatly improved. Maybe a good fit for Trotz system.
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He's a big guy with some skill, and he is a lot better defensively than I ever gave him credit for until this year. He's opened my eyes/Isles. He is also a home grown Islander. I would try to sign him and Lee. A 5 year contract for a 27 year old until he is 32 is not something I would be too scared of. It's the cap hit. 5-5.5M for 5 years is my guess. You know Trotz likes him when he is out there with a min to go in a 1 goal lead. Centers are not easy to find.
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Problem is that you've destroyed the Isles ability to create strength down the middle with a 1a/1b approach and that seems to be the biggest needle mover in terms of true Cup contention. Brock sits in that precipice where he's not good enough to be a true 1b/2a and too good to be a nice 3c. So, he's going to be one of those players that fits as a decent player playing above his weight-class on an bad to average team, like a Coyotes or something.
