Player Discussion: Brock Nelson

[MoCorleone]

I could be wrong but I believe since he pushed for arbitration he will get a 2 year deal

It can't be a two year arbitration deal since the CBA prevents any arbitration judgement that cuts into a players UFA year.

 

[PWJunior]

I say play Brock between Lee and Bailey to pump up his value and then trade him for max value at the trade deadline. Get a 1st for him, kind of like we got a 1st for Campoli back in the day. Take on a salary dump if you have to.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

August 3rd is his hearing date if anyone is interested.

Gentlemen, start your arbitrations

Right on my birthday, man would I love to read that Lou heard enough and sent him packing

 

[CREW99AW]

Right on my birthday, man would I love to read that Lou heard enough and sent him packing

With the production we are losing with Tavares leaving, I expect Nelson to at least start the season with the isles.

Even if he wins in arbitration and is overpaid for 2018-2019,I think we will see him start the season in an isles jersey.

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

With the production we are losing with Tavares leaving, I expect Nelson to at least start the season with the isles.

Even if he wins in arbitration and is overpaid for 2018-2019,I think we will see him start the season in an isles jersey.

Your probably right. After all, Lou said he will be an Islander, I'd love to see him moved for help now, but he is more likely deadline trade bait to give a contender some scoring help

 

[CREW99AW]

Your probably right. After all, Lou said he will be an Islander, I'd love to see him moved for help now, but he is more likely deadline trade bait to give a contender some scoring help

Teams are more likely to overpay at the TDL .
I would be leery of giving big bucks to a player who lacks drive, but who has had a big season in his contract yr.

I do not mind Bailey's new contract because $5m per is pretty team friendly, when you consider Bailey would have been one of the top ufa forwards if he reached the July 1st market.

 

[SI90]

In 22 games played to start the year Nelson has 9 goals and 9 assists for 18 pts.

The amazing thing is that he has no PP points. Everything has come at even strength. Production aside, he’s looked like a completely different player. I still don’t believe he’s the long term solution as the #2 Center but he certainly deserves credit for the start he’s had.

Maybe Trotz speaks his language? It happens every so often where a particular coach gets through to a player. I think we’re seeing that with Nelson.

I’d really like to play him on the #1 PP. Beauvillier and Nelson are probably our 2 best left hand shooters on the team.

 

[Brunomics]

In 22 games played to start the year Nelson has 9 goals and 9 assists for 18 pts.

The amazing thing is that he has no PP points. Everything has come at even strength. Production aside, he’s looked like a completely different player. I still don’t believe he’s the long term solution as the #2 Center but he certainly deserves credit for the start he’s had.

Maybe Trotz speaks his language? It happens every so often where a particular coach gets through to a player. I think we’re seeing that with Nelson.

I’d really like to play him on the #1 PP. Beauvillier and Nelson are probably our 2 best left hand shooters on the team.

At this point I really feel like we are watching Brock become a man. He's grown up before our very eyes.

 

[crashthenet]

At this point I really feel like we are watching Brock become a man. He's grown up before our very eyes.

He had an absolute monster shift that led to the Barzal goal in OT against the Devils. Wasn't much discussed but displyed a compete level absent from his game last year.

 

[periferal]

At this point I really feel like we are watching Brock become a man. He's grown up before our very eyes.

Correct...And I'd still trade him in a second for the right deal.

 

[SI90]

Correct...And I'd still trade him in a second for the right deal.

Agreed.

 

[Brunomics]

Correct...And I'd still trade him in a second for the right deal.

Now here is the question, with him turning the corner a la Bailey he could actually be the 2C that this team needs. Combine that with the fact that VF51 looks good is he really a guy this team wants to trade? It would just be creating a hole that needs to be filled in another way.

And unless Matt Duchene is walking through these doors Nelson is one of the better 2C's out there.

 

[steveat]

He's playing a lot like KO on his breakout year, but that's not the issue...the issue is consistency. Can he keep this up? I do't want to lock him up in a multi-year deal if he's just going to suck for the remainder of the cont. Let another team take that chance or sign a max 3 year deal, then a long term 7 year deal until he retires. All for a lower than 5.5m AAV at best.

Still would rather trade his while his value is high.

 

[aronjudge11]

I think you need to sign top six skaters that want to be here. You can't sign any as free agents, in 30 years they signed maybe one. Trading is it's own difficult problem. If Brock goes back to his usual form, he's still useful player who will be overpaid a little. Same for eberle and Lee. It's the 3rd 4th liners that should not be signed for more than two years. LAD WAS already slowing down and had to be paid every last dollar to be signed. That's different situation then these 3 guys. Even then Ladd is not complete bust look at the Mets the last ten years Ladd would be considered a not bad signing.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Now here is the question,

Nuance doesn't exist there. I would just back away slowly.

 

[Sparksrus3]

In 22 games played to start the year Nelson has 9 goals and 9 assists for 18 pts.

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Thanksgiving fun fact
Last season on January 31st which was our 52nd game of the year Brock was 10g - 7a - 17 points. Sheriff Woody to the rescue. Just pull his string and reach for the stars.

 

[CREW99AW]

He's playing a lot like KO on his breakout year, but that's not the issue...the issue is consistency. Can he keep this up? I do't want to lock him up in a multi-year deal if he's just going to suck for the remainder of the cont. Let another team take that chance or sign a max 3 year deal, then a long term 7 year deal until he retires. All for a lower than 5.5m AAV at best.

Still would rather trade his while his value is high.

Love his compete level this season, but I am not in favor of giving him a big 5 -6 year extension and I expect that is what it will take.

I have seen fans make the Bailey comparison ( late bloomer).
Just not a gamble I want to see the isles take.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Thanksgiving fun fact
Last season on January 31st which was our 52nd game of the year Brock was 10g - 7a - 17 points. Sheriff Woody to the rescue. Just pull his string and reach for the stars.

 

[PK Cronin]

Love his compete level this season, but I am not in favor of giving him a big 5 -6 year extension and I expect that is what it will take.

I have seen fans make the Bailey comparison ( late bloomer).
Just not a gamble I want to see the isles take.

The difference between Bailey and Nelson for me, a Bailey supporter, is that I never saw Nelson thinking the game well. Bailey was always looking to make the right play or was cautious, but I could see that he understood plays that were developing and what he wanted to do. He'd get too cute sometimes, and we'll never mistake him for a physical player, but he always had good vision and understanding of the game. Nelson is a guy who always racked up points by being the third man in and getting his shot off. Nothing about his game ever made you think he was a high IQ player, until this season.

I'm one who believes coaching and systems can have a massive impact on a player, so it's possible he just fits with Trotz. It's also possible he'll regress after getting paid like so many before him. Buyer beware.

 

[Barzilla]

At what point does he go back his his usual ways? And we all start hating him again. He’s never out together a full 82 games. Idk if he’s even put a consistent 41 games together.

 

[seafoam]

I would not give Nelson money and I wanted to give Bailey money. Bailey elevated Tavares while Nelson’s never made those around him better and still doesn’t really so far this season.

 

[Sparksrus3]

At what point does he go back his his usual ways? And we all start hating him again. .

Let's say January 5th. Let him enjoy the holidays

 

[Glory Days]

Both Nelson and Eberle are both playing for contracts. Only 1 is hustling and playing an all around team game. 2nd line centers are not easy to find. Isles have many play makers but not as many scorers. I think we need to give it more time but Brock is looking like a keeper to me.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

Maybe Trotz speaks his language? It happens every so often where a particular coach gets through to a player. I think we’re seeing that with Nelson.

Sitting here think of Trotz specifically speaking to Brock like Sheriff Woody or Spicoli is cracking me up.

 

[SI90]

Sitting here think of Trotz specifically speaking to Brock like Sheriff Woody or Spicoli is cracking me up.

Haha