Player Discussion Brock Boeser | Still Unsigned

[Bleach Clean]

He's lucky that EP has pretty much entirely taken the spotlight off of him. This would have been brutal otherwise.

I was thinking the same today. Boeser’s problems would have been centre stage had Pettersson not burst onto the scene. He’s lucky in that way.

I don’t know what is up with his performance, but they have to rectify it. He’s too important a player to have him become what he is. Something is wrong. They need to address it.

 

[nuxnuxnux]

He’s shooting at 7.7%, idk why everyone is freaking out, the guys coming off a broken back ffs, give him at least 30 games before you declare the sky is falling

 

[Jay Cee]

Despite the talk of how "terrible" he is playing- he is recouping from a serious injury and he is nursing a groin injury this season.

He still has 7 points in 11 games. That's not godly like last season, but it won't take him much to get back in the hunt with a couple hot games. I don't see much reason for serious concern yet. If he goes the whole season scoring very few goals then yes, we have a problem.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

He will be fine once he is healthy.

 

[tantalum]

Any team would take a 50 point pace "slumping" sophmore still getting into shape after a difficult back injury followed by a groin problem.....

 

[PuckMunchkin]

He's lucky that EP has pretty much entirely taken the spotlight off of him. This would have been brutal otherwise.

What would we do to Boeser if EP didnt take the spotlight? Beat him up?

 

[M2Beezy]

What would we do to Boeser if EP didnt take the spotlight? Beat him up?

No i think he means wed criticize him more

 

[DonnyNucker]

Any team would take a 50 point pace "slumping" sophmore still getting into shape after a difficult back injury followed by a groin problem.....

We aren’t any team. We are the Vancouver canucks. We deserve the best and always strive for excellence

 

[DonnyNucker]

What would we do to Boeser if EP didnt take the spotlight? Beat him up?

Send him to the marlies

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

I don't think he's the franchise-changing talent we thought he might be last season, but he's definitely going to be a consistent 20-30 goal scorer for most of his career. Think James Neal-type production.

The franchise-changer is Pettersson.

 

[Draino]

I forgot that Brock only had 2 goals in all of October last year (yes i know he played fewer games last october). I have a feeling that once he gets his timing back and he pops a couple he will start to roll again.

 

[GetFocht]

Brock is making good plays but his speed just isn't there to execute, so he starts to reach a lot with his stick and stops moving his feet.

 

[CherryToke]

Taped up wrist, sore groin, fractured ass, limited off season training. I'm willing to cut him a bit of slack.

 

[SillyRabbit]

I think people are missing the point here.

I don’t think anyone is worried about Boeser’s point totals, but the concern is about his health.

Yes, if he’s playing through injury his production will suffer, but the issue is why is he playing through injury?

With a player as important as Boeser, why not give him some time off to go through a proper rehab regimen?

Even if it took two months (it would probably take less) he would come back in January and be fully healthy and ready to go.

I’d hate to see him re-aggravate something when there’s an opportunity to get him fully healthy.

You need to think long term with players as important as Brock.

 

[Peen]

Man I wish we had that 3rd of his entry level to really judge and make an assessment.

Shows why some teams are reluctant to burn it.

Agree, I really wish we had it as well.

But I don't agree with the premise that we should play hardball with college FA's about it.

You're already taking a big risk taking college players... I would do anything it takes to get them signed. I never understood this criticism of Benning. I think it's the correct move and ANY GM should have done what Benning did. Too risky not to.

Jesus Christ I just said other GM's should follow Benning's example

Never thought I'd speak those words

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Boeser healthy last seen and ready to play. *Sit him for the first handful of games.

Boeser injured and not recovered and needs to rest.
*Play his ass off and no breaks for you!

 

[adamzilla]

This management think? Out of your mind.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I think people are missing the point here.

I don’t think anyone is worried about Boeser’s point totals, but the concern is about his health.

Yes, if he’s playing through injury his production will suffer, but the issue is why is he playing through injury?

With a player as important as Boeser, why not give him some time off to go through a proper rehab regimen?

Even if it took two months (it would probably take less) he would come back in January and be fully healthy and ready to go.

I’d hate to see him re-aggravate something when there’s an opportunity to get him fully healthy.

You need to think long term with players as important as Brock.

GM and Coach really think long term
Their jobs don’t tend to last long

 

[PuckMunchkin]

No i think he means wed criticize him more

He has looked terrible this year but we all know why, so whats the point.

GM and Coach really think long term
Their jobs don’t tend to last long

Huh?

 

[tantalum]

I think the poster meant to type “rarely” and not “really”.

As to why he’s playing...this is a medical issue and unless we have the full medical history and diagnosis it’s hard to know if playing is the right or wrong thing to do. Especially with the back recovery. Though I would suggest groin injuries rarely get better if you continue with hard exercise.

 

[timw33]

Agree, I really wish we had it as well.

But I don't agree with the premise that we should play hardball with college FA's about it.

You're already taking a big risk taking college players... I would do anything it takes to get them signed. I never understood this criticism of Benning. I think it's the correct move and ANY GM should have done what Benning did. Too risky not to.

Jesus Christ I just said other GM's should follow Benning's example

Never thought I'd speak those words

The thing with burning a year of ELC by playing a handful of games in March/April is that you don't burn a year towards UFA/salary arbitration, and that's more important.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I think the poster meant to type “rarely” and not “really”.

As to why he’s playing...this is a medical issue and unless we have the full medical history and diagnosis it’s hard to know if playing is the right or wrong thing to do. Especially with the back recovery. Though I would suggest groin injuries rarely get better if you continue with hard exercise.

Ah. Gotcha.

 

[Dr Good Vibes]

Brock has been mostly painful to watch this year. He’s so slow and doesn’t seem to read the play as well as he did.

It’s mind blowing how he was the future a year ago, and then we get EP and see what a true franchise player looks like. They’re not in the same tier.

Not sure if Brock is injured or what but he just looks terrible out there.

 

[I am toxic]

Brock has been mostly painful to watch this year. He’s so slow and doesn’t seem to read the play as well as he did.

It’s mind blowing how he was the future a year ago, and then we get EP and see what a true franchise player looks like. They’re not in the same tier.

Not sure if Brock is injured or what but he just looks terrible out there.

Whoa! Brock was on track to compete for the Calder with another amazing rookie in Barzal. Sure he is not on same tier as EP but definitely a franchise player until the back injury.

Seriously, why use gates to change, they are slower than hopping the boards, and create dangers (as so clearly demonstrated in Brock's case). I swear the Canucks have lost about a dozen games the past dozen seasons on crappy line changes/bench minors.

And by "swear" I mean I have no evidence other than anecdotes and a gut feeling. 1st Round Game 5 2012 PO's I'm looking at you.

 

[Dr Good Vibes]

Whoa! Brock was on track to compete for the Calder with another amazing rookie in Barzal. Sure he is not on same tier as EP but definitely a franchise player until the back injury.

I always thought of him as a consistent 30 goal, one or two times 40 goals guy personally. He had a great year last year. I have no stats to back this up, but I was wondering if he could be missing the Sedins. Not many playmakers among our forwards besides Elias. Haven’t seen many cross ice clappers this year. Sedins were really, really good at setting that up.