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He has to use a protection spot for the Seattle expansion draft?
Yes, but he can waive it if he wants. It's up to him though.
He has to use a protection spot for the Seattle expansion draft?
Five more years left and a full NMC to boot. Woof, this is not happening. He's a BC native so maybe he'll accept to go to Seattle but before that I can't see him getting moved anywhere.
He can accept sure, but why would seattle take him unless chicago significantly adds to do so?
to take clarkson and select william karlsson columbus had to give up a 1st and 2nd
minny gave up tuch for vegas to take haula
florida gave up rielly smith for vegas to take marchessault
judging by those deals it would have to be something like this
Chicago trades a 2021 1st rd pick, 2021 2nd rd pick and Alex Nylander for seattle to take seabrook
I guess he’s from close to Seattle and may waive his nmc, but then you have to wonder why Seattle would select him in the draft. It would cost whichever team acquired him at least a first round pick to have Seattle take him. So that would mean it would cost Chicago more than a first to send him off.Yes, but he can waive it if he wants. It's up to him though.
Lucic is a better contract, sure as of right now seabs is probably the better player. The difference of contact isn’t worth two first round picks lol. Maybe a conditional 1st and two seconds.You're joking, right? Cause I'd keep Lucic easily
Seabrook is NOT currently on the market. They are not in a cap crunch and in addition to the cap going up they gain about 5 mill in cap space after the season when Crawford's deal is up and they don't have 2 starter salaries to pay.
What gets me here is people writing that even if he waives Seattle won't take him. Seattle taking him isn't important. The ability to protect someone else is.
That makes sense...but the question I have is if he waives for a trade, could that remove the NMC as well? I know some trades in the past have caused those NMC or NTC to no longer be in place. A team willing to take on Seabrook this offseason if it removes that NMC to allow for that ability to protect someone else would be pretty valuable. Maybe a team like DET would take him on since they have about 8.5M coming off the books from Mike Green and Trevor Daley.Seabrook is NOT currently on the market. They are not in a cap crunch and in addition to the cap going up they gain about 5 mill in cap space after the season when Crawford's deal is up and they don't have 2 starter salaries to pay.
What gets me here is people writing that even if he waives Seattle won't take him. Seattle taking him isn't important. The ability to protect someone else is.
Obviously none of us is "in the room" but even if he waives to be eligible for the expansion draft giving the Hawks the ability to protect someone else I see no scenario where the Hawks then screw him over.That makes sense...but the question I have is if he waives for a trade, could that remove the NMC as well? I know some trades in the past have caused those NMC or NTC to no longer be in place. A team willing to take on Seabrook this offseason if it removes that NMC to allow for that ability to protect someone else would be pretty valuable. Maybe a team like DET would take him on since they have about 8.5M coming off the books from Mike Green and Trevor Daley.
There is no reason for him to waive his NMC. Guy is 34. Been on the hawks since he turned 20 back in 2005. Spent ages 16-20 Lethbridge. In BC before that. So, his adult life is in Chicago.Obviously none of us is "in the room" but even if he waives to be eligible for the expansion draft giving the Hawks the ability to protect someone else I see no scenario where the Hawks then screw him over.
If he is at some point traded after that it will still be on his terms.
If anyone actually watches the games, he really isn't playing poorly. He's a mid level 2nd pair type right now and for sure will be a 3rd pair guy in a few years but posters are exaggerating claiming he is not an NHL player. The problem right now is he is still being used in many top level shut down roles. ... That's not him anymore.
You realize that a buyout doesn’t save much cap space. Hawks would need to eat the roughly $7 mill more in cash that they paid him over the first 4 years of his contract followed by the $12 million remaining in signing bonus money. He only has $8.5 mill in salary left.I bet buy out is the only out at this point
Yah, I'm sure that'll happen.He can accept sure, but why would seattle take him unless chicago significantly adds to do so?
to take clarkson and select william karlsson columbus had to give up a 1st and 2nd
minny gave up tuch for vegas to take haula
florida gave up rielly smith for vegas to take marchessault
judging by those deals it would have to be something like this
Chicago trades a 2021 1st rd pick, 2021 2nd rd pick and Alex Nylander for seattle to take seabrook
I bet buy out is the only out at this point
No way Yzerman touches Seabrook without a ridiculous overpay, like 2 1sts + good prospect + decent young roster player + maybe some retention, making it a moot point as Bowman likely wouldn't do that.That makes sense...but the question I have is if he waives for a trade, could that remove the NMC as well? I know some trades in the past have caused those NMC or NTC to no longer be in place. A team willing to take on Seabrook this offseason if it removes that NMC to allow for that ability to protect someone else would be pretty valuable. Maybe a team like DET would take him on since they have about 8.5M coming off the books from Mike Green and Trevor Daley.
The buyout is actually worse than just riding out the contract. If they really wanted to, in a couple years they could trade him, the acquiring team buys him out and then they bring him back on a 1-year, cheap deal.You realize that a buyout doesn’t save much cap space. Hawks would need to eat the roughly $7 mill more in cash that they paid him over the first 4 years of his contract followed by the $12 million remaining in signing bonus money. He only has $8.5 mill in salary left.
That makes sense...but the question I have is if he waives for a trade, could that remove the NMC as well? I know some trades in the past have caused those NMC or NTC to no longer be in place. A team willing to take on Seabrook this offseason if it removes that NMC to allow for that ability to protect someone else would be pretty valuable. Maybe a team like DET would take him on since they have about 8.5M coming off the books from Mike Green and Trevor Daley.