My computer tells me things. What a joke.
Oh, those are fair points. I've previously stated this:They certainly took on far more defensive responsibility than the Keith/Seabrook pair in their prime.
I'm not sure how much of that was because they were THAT MUCH better defensively, so much as Keith/Seabrook could provide so much more offensively given the opportunity.
I think if you swapped the Keith/Seabrook and Hjalmarsson/Oduya pairs at their peak, Keith/Seabrook could give you similar defensive impact.... but I don't think Oduya/Hjalmarsson could have taken as much advantage of the moderately softer deployment.
So it made sense to let Oduya/Hjalmarsson handle the tough Dzone stuff, and give Keith/Seabrook the offensive benefit from that work.
Was gonna throw in Marc Savard but see he finally retired in 2018...damn it!And Datsyuk
Wakey WakeyI remember that one. Backes got absolutely destroyed.
So...he’s not officially retiring
Can’t say I blame him
He has already had both hips replaced. One didn’t “take” properly. Forcing this move.Keith - Seabrook were a force for a long time in todays game. Great career and got too much criticism in his last years, his body was just done. He's 2 yrs younger than me and is already talking about a possible hip replacement in 10-20 yrs, if it's not possible to manage it, that's no joke.
Hope he's able to enjoy retirement without vicious health troubles.
Luongo did but that was about 3.6 million over 3 years of contract he gave up.Nobody does with term left on their contract.... Why would you? To throw money away?
Keith is no longer a top 5 D-man in the NHL but he is still a top pair and to most still a #1.I stand by what I said. Keith went from being a HoF level defenceman to below average. This wasn't a gradual shift either; it happened in one season. He was only 33 at the time, so I can't attribute it to age. The only thing that makes sense is the knee injury and subsequent surgery he had in 2016.
LOL! Put the shovel down!Correction, it tells me that P. Kane has had elite seasons, but he has not been elite over the entirety of his career.
He has to ability to play a lot of minutes, is a hard worker and by all accounts a good teammate and veteran presence. His play is poor at worst, mediocre at best.Keith is no longer a top 5 D-man in the NHL but he is still a top pair and to most still a #1.
Your take is silly and shows a lack of knowledge about the game.
The league has to put in some kind of LTIR allowance per team. Every dollar after the allowance (say $5M aav for discussion sake) goes against the cap.
I am not saying that every LTIR is bogus, but you can't ignorethe fact that many teams they have benefited greatly from these deals. You get the productive years at an artificially low cap hit then, when it is time to pay the piper for that front loaded benefit, it is erased. Nothing but upside. There has to be some kind of check and balance here.
The Hawks signed all these guys to ridiculously long contracts so they could bring the cap hit down. Then when the guys are past their primes and they get put on LTIR until the contract runs out. Player still gets paid, Hawks are allowed to go over the salary cap. Wash, rinse, repeat.How does Seabrook not playing through the end of his contract in 2021-2024 help the Hawks win Cups in 2010, 2013, and 2015....?
Will never happen. How do you set an arbitrary number for it?
Let's say the league allows a figure of $5m in LTIR. What happens when you have two of your highest paid players on the team being put on LTIR? Let's say Skinner and Eichel both are injured on the same night? That's $19m in salary, almost 1/4 of your cap space boom, gone. But you only get about 1/4 of that back? So you're basically telling me (and yes, I know how terrible Skinner, Eichel, and Buffalo are right now, but work with me on this) Buffalo would not be allowed to pick up a $5m+ player for the final stretch of the season if they were heading to the playoffs? LTIR works the way it should. In the words of Paul McCartney, let it be.
Now that said, trading a LTIR contract should be off the table. I agree that some teams (cough*Coyotes*cough) have greatly benefited from trading LTIR players. If your player can't pass a physical, then your player should not be able to be traded.
There has to be some kind of limit. No one ever "retires" it seems. They just "stop playing". If everyone and their mother knows a player is never playing again, it's ridiculous that a player can be put on LTIR several years in a row until their contract runs out.Will never happen. How do you set an arbitrary number for it?
Let's say the league allows a figure of $5m in LTIR. What happens when you have two of your highest paid players on the team being put on LTIR? Let's say Skinner and Eichel both are injured on the same night? That's $19m in salary, almost 1/4 of your cap space boom, gone. But you only get about 1/4 of that back? So you're basically telling me (and yes, I know how terrible Skinner, Eichel, and Buffalo are right now, but work with me on this) Buffalo would not be allowed to pick up a $5m+ player for the final stretch of the season if they were heading to the playoffs? LTIR works the way it should. In the words of Paul McCartney, let it be.
Now that said, trading a LTIR contract should be off the table. I agree that some teams (cough*Coyotes*cough) have greatly benefited from trading LTIR players. If your player can't pass a physical, then your player should not be able to be traded.