Schaller is 4 years older than Gaunce.
When Schaller was 24 (Gaunce's current age) he had 2 points in 18 games. In fact, removing last season's stats, Schaller had career totals of 19 points in 94 games - again, all at an older age than Gaunce.
I hardly think that is any indication of a player with offensive upside.
Gaunce has only played 21 NHL games in the last 14 months. In that span he has 5 goals and 3 assists. I'd be interested to know if that's closer to his real pace at the NHL level as opposed to the 6 points in the first 96 games.
The thing is, even if he were only a 15 point 4th liner. He plays heavy Dzone start minutes and breaks even.I look forward to his next run of NHL games to find out...
Would be awesome if takes a step and becomes a 20-25 pt regular.
I think 20-25 points, good defensively, and a role on the PK would be the hope.I look forward to his next run of NHL games to find out...
Would be awesome if takes a step and becomes a 20-25 pt regular.
Has there ever been a Canuck bust 1st rounder that got more love than Gaunce 7yrs after their draft?
You should ignore this thread if it triggers you so badly.Has there ever been a Canuck bust 1st rounder that got more love than Gaunce 7yrs after their draft?
That is the problem, nobody would complain if they actually brought someone in who is better than Gaunce/Biega but no matter how hard they try the havent. Nobody is complaining that Gaunce/Biega isnt in the lineup because he is such a good player. People complain because they bring in players that are worse than Gaunce/Biega yet play ahead of him. They are just wasting assets and money.
Has there ever been a Canuck bust 1st rounder that got more love than Gaunce 7yrs after their draft?
Has there ever been a Canuck bust 1st rounder that got more love than Gaunce 7yrs after their draft?
1 | 24 | Boston | Malcolm Subban | G | Belleville Bulls [OHL] | 34 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2018-19 |
1 | 25 | St. Louis | Jordan Schmaltz | D | Green Bay Gamblers [USHL] | 42 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 12 | 2018-19 |
1 | 26 | Vancouver | Brendan Gaunce | C | Belleville Bulls [OHL] | 117 | 6 | 9 | 15 | 45 | 2018-19 |
1 | 27 | Phoenix | Henrik Samuelsson | C | Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL] | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2014-15 |
1 | 28 | NY Rangers | Brady Skjei | D | U.S. National Development Team [USHL] | 224 | 12 | 66 | 78 | 107 | 2018-19 |
1 | 29 | New Jersey | Stefan Matteau | C | U.S. National Development Team [USHL] | 64 | 3 | 4 | 7 | 27 | 2017-18 |
1 | 30 | Los Angeles | Tanner Pearson | L | Barrie Colts [OHL] | 367 | 78 | 80 | 158 | 94 | 2018-19 |
Round 2 | |||||||||||
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Round | Num. | Drafted By | Player | Pos | Drafted From | GP | G | A | Pts | PIM | Last Season |
2 | 31 | Columbus | Oscar Dansk | G | Brynas IF Gavle [SEL] | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2017-18 |
2 | 32 | Edmonton | Mitch Moroz | L | Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL] | ||||||
2 | 33 | Montreal | Sebastian Collberg | R | Frolunda HC [SEL] | ||||||
2 | 34 | NY Islanders | Ville Pokka | D | Karpat [SM-liiga] | ||||||
2 | 35 | Toronto | Matt Finn | D | Guelph Storm [OHL] |
He was 26th overall and has played 117 NHL games so far. Pretty liberal use of the term 'bust' since he never had lofty expectations to begin with. That draft year was also garbage, look at the players selected around Gaunce, outside of Skjei and Pearson there's a whole lot of 'meh':
Gaunce was liked because he seemed like a good kid, had good positional play and defensive awareness, and seemed very determined to improve. I hope he gets another crack at the NHL when injuries arise.[TBODY] [/TBODY]
1 24 Boston Malcolm Subban G Belleville Bulls [OHL] 34 0 0 0 4 2018-19 1 25 St. Louis Jordan Schmaltz D Green Bay Gamblers [USHL] 42 0 5 5 12 2018-19 1 26 Vancouver Brendan Gaunce C Belleville Bulls [OHL] 117 6 9 15 45 2018-19 1 27 Phoenix Henrik Samuelsson C Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL] 3 0 0 0 2 2014-15 1 28 NY Rangers Brady Skjei D U.S. National Development Team [USHL] 224 12 66 78 107 2018-19 1 29 New Jersey Stefan Matteau C U.S. National Development Team [USHL] 64 3 4 7 27 2017-18 1 30 Los Angeles Tanner Pearson L Barrie Colts [OHL] 367 78 80 158 94 2018-19 Round 2 Round Num. Drafted By Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM Last Season 2 31 Columbus Oscar Dansk G Brynas IF Gavle [SEL] 4 0 0 0 0 2017-18 2 32 Edmonton Mitch Moroz L Edmonton Oil Kings [WHL] 2 33 Montreal Sebastian Collberg R Frolunda HC [SEL] 2 34 NY Islanders Ville Pokka D Karpat [SM-liiga] 2 35 Toronto Matt Finn D Guelph Storm [OHL]
LOL.If your top 45 picks dont play 300 games thats a bust pick. 2012 wasn't that bad just lacked high end talent.
Its opportunity and value lost considering 45-50 players every draft play 300 games....maybe he does and i retract this statement
Skjei Pearson Sissons Severson Tierney McCabe Parayko Gostisbehere Lindell all went in the next 55 picks.
Obviously odds go down per selection and the draft was fine considering we got Hutton and Gaunce is perhaps somewhat useful but not expecting much because of the late 1st thing is pretty weak considering how worked up people get over getting a late 1st for players in trades to good teams?
I mean if you traded Tanev for a late 1st and late 2nd in this draft and both picks busted would that be an ok expectation for Benning?
You mad?LOL.
Yes, if Benning made that move it would be great. It would be lauded as a great move and rightfully so. The picks "busting" has nothing to do with it.
Where are you coming up with less than 300 games = bust?
I find the irony of you complaining about this bust getting so much chatter, but you're in here posting about it to be quite amusing.
It's also freakin' hilarious somebody provided insights you immediately dismiss.
He currently behind the 24th dude selected in his class in terms of overall career points so far (though leads him by a single point this season).You can easily refine the picks that did make it to 300 games by relating where they went in the draft to further analyse success vs failure (value asset drain)
E.g. Virtanen 6th selection vs 25th in scoring for his class. He's gonna get 300 games but he would be value lost and a bad pick.
Yes you can refine it....some guys like Spooner (just to pull a name)for example may have more pts but are worse overall players because of role and inability to play up and down and i think Sanheim was behind in terms of pts but you have to adjust defenseman in terms of where they play 1st pair 2nd pair 3rd pair vs production and he's been playing top4 for the Flyers so he's ahead even if behind in pts if that makes sense.He currently behind the 24th dude selected in his class in terms of overall career points so far (though leads him by a single point this season).
But seriously, I don't disagree with much of what you're trying to say.
Jay Beagle as an example at age 24/25 had 10 NHL games. He has 500 now. Probably best not to close the book on Gaunce at this stage.
If your top 45 picks dont play 300 games thats a bust pick. 2012 wasn't that bad just lacked high end talent.
Its opportunity and value lost considering 45-50 players every draft play 300 games....maybe he does and i retract this statement
Even at times this season, some people still thought that Virtanen is better than Nylander/Ehlers. That’s some pretty crazy overrating for a draft disappointment.